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One way I heard gamma synchrony described is akin to an absolutely placid pond where if a small pebble is tossed in the ripples are easily visible even from the far shore, whereas a large stone can be tossed into a turbulent pond and no ripples will be apparent. Swami Vivekananda often said what distinguishes a great man from an ordinary man is power of concentration. Anyway my point was oblivion only applies to mind and not That which is aware of mind. |
It just happened that I watched three Krishnamurti videos, one about meditation:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9IS1zW6In4 duration 19:44 from Saanen 1980 - Question #1 from Question & Answer Meeting #4 'Is our sitting quietly every day to observe the movement of thought by your definition a practice, a method and therefore without value?' |
Oblivion?, not for me thanks, too much fun to be had. There's a whole universe to explore and learn about. Could take me forever to learn about it but I'm keen.
Love and light utopia |
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Having written that, your next post 12 directs us to a video featuring another person, a guru to some people ... Krishnamurti. :confused: https://www.spiritualforums.com/vb/s...8&postcount=12 |
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Rather like describing a destination to a group of hopeful travellers and then saying don't bother with any means of transport to reach that destination. Peace |
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:smile: I don't see a contradiction ... I'll explain. I stand by my recommendation to not put your faith in any guru, or dogma, and to trust only your inner-guidance, and only after you leave aside all your beliefs and expectations, because they distort your perception of your inner-guidance. Quote:
This surely implies not to put your faith in what I recommend either. In fact, I only recommend a way of getting knowledge in the way that I believe to be the least distorted (and it is the way I do it). Although I share my beliefs, I don't intend to convince anybody of their validity. On the other hand, in the video I was pointing to, that guru was actually recommending not to follow "techniques", but to be natural, which I kind of agree (so, it was an opinion I share). I don't follow that guru, I am not familiar with his overall work, and I don't subscribe to any religion or philosophic system. It just happened that on another forum somebody linked to a youtube video, I was curious and watched it, then a couple more. The second video that I watched seemed to confirm my reticence toward why and how people meditate, and I thought it fit into this thread's discussion. There is nothing more about J Krishnamurti, or that video that contradicts the recommendations I was making. Not all, but many religions, gurus, dogmas are based on perceptions of the wider-reality by some people, everyone filtering and interpreting their experiences through their individual beliefs, intellectual and intuitive capabilities. That is why on one hand there are so many commonalities, and on the other hand there are so many discrepancies. At individual level, what I do and recommend (again, not pretending that it is more than my opinion) is to look at everything around: events, situations, gurus, dogmas, dreams, and interpret them intuitively at your individual level of evolvement. Everything around has multi-layered symbolism, so everybody can get the interpretation that fits their needs, which differs from one individual to another, and even differs from a moment to another for the same individual. If you disagree, or don't care about the opinions I expressed (here or elsewhere), I really don't mind and don't intend to argue for their validity. |
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Why oblivion and not another shot at life as we know it?, I'd love to come back to this experience and continue on.
But hey, thats my love for you, always keen to know more of myself experientially. Love is eternal utopia |
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We are actually in agreement on the above point. What drew me to my teacher was her opening words: "Question everything, even what I say, and, if a teacher can't POINT you to the DIRECT EXPERIENCES, then go elsewhere." A good teacher (IMHO) is one who ultimately directs one to the "inner guidance", as you put it, and that is exactly what she did. As for the "no technique guru" whose video you recommended, I am very familiar with him as my teacher was once a member of the Theosophical Society and knew krishnamurti personally. I was just having fun with what might look to others as your outwardly contradictory statements.:D I understand. There's no need to reinvent the wheel, as the expression goes, and learning from the experiences of others can be helpful. |
Hi Still-Waters, glad your ok.Id just like to point out that quote from inavalan you posted. It is so true.
I personally would never have a teacher/Guru,but it is up to you how you want to live your life.:smile: |
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