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I have previously stated on this thread what I think about the soul. There are so many definitions for soul that it is debatable what is a soul and even if a soul exist. As a side thought, if you look at the history of the word "soul", it is as varied as it is today. |
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Soul = Biologic
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Soul = biological. Simple not complex. Biological/soul :D Intention { * ? * } and ego { i } > > arrow-of-time > > is forward and outward Love ( ( oo ) ) and integrity { /\Y/\ } past < now < future is wholistically inward as one "Unity is plural and at a minimum two"...Bucky Fuller ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Depends on how we define spirit. Some definitions of spirit, as energy is a form of matter. Spirit-2, fermions, bosons and any aggregate collection thereof is physical/energy and occupy space. Spirit-1 is metaphyiscal, mind/intellect/concepts and do not occupy space. Spirit-3 gravity ( ) occupies space but is not physical/energy Spirit-4 dark energy )( occupies space but is not physical/energy. |
Soul = spiritual..if we choose to refer to it all as spiritual.
The entire organic physical = spiritual as well, because it is all made up of & from the invisible spiritual matter of the almighty one. Persons who have not had experiences of a phenomenal kind can not understand or accept the above. The above is what we are, we are soul entities living a spiritual existence of an organic kind. Via a non sentient, non intelligent & non aware finite body. |
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Well I have had experiences of a phenomenal kind and I can't see why a soul (as said, whatever that may be) is needed - especially as we don't know what we are talking about. Indeed I don't see why this universe needs any sort of supernatural additive, it is capable in itself of creating all manner of experiences. |
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"In regards to this last paragraph of yours".... .......Of course the universe does not need any supernatural additive. Because the universe that most people relate to, "is" the spiritual universe. And nothing in the "one & only spiritual universe" is of the supernatural....everthing of the magical spiritual universe is completely "natural"...& definately not supernatural. I have many very very spot on reasons for knowing that we are not only an Earthly physical biological entity, living in a universe of only stars & planets etc, in galaxies. & that we just die out, when the physical biological body can no longer pump blood, oxygen, nutrition throughout itself etc. One of those reasons is that i have had & seen phenomenal unexplainable experiences that not anyone on this site has yet spoken about...as i have said numerous times in the past. & from those phenomena, I have seen beings without the flesh body, & of whom get around this planet and absolutely 100% disgustingly & unlovingly run amuck. And I am able to see that these beings, have spiritual bodies that have deteriorated so badly that some of them are without arms & legs & or just withered completely back to the torso. facial features & heads that are caved twisted & just so disgustingly grose, & what is left of their torso, is buckled twisted deformed & so short. & the texture & their complexion looks as though it has been bashed for the last month by Mike Tyson...not black & blue...But a combined blended mixture of bloody red dark blacks, blue etc. & this is why they do not show themselves yet they allow themselves to be heard. & why they project different personalities through visions via our third eye...."deceptions that Earthlings have absolutely no concept of". Because these beings prefer not to be seen as the beings that they have become, if the general public saw through their dark & discrete deception, & could see them for what they truely are, well, the general public would change their ways of being instantly. & the reason these beings look so grose, is because they are the invisible Soul beings of which emanate a spiritual body..(emanate), & all Soul beings are all subject to the great one & only law of "reap as one sows", that has brought these beings into such a poor state of being. This law does not work upon the emanated spiritual body, because the spiritual body is only an emanation of the quality of the "Soul'self"... "Of which we are". Has anyone seen people of the Earth have their physical body growing so disgustingly ugly with every unloving thought....NO....& that is because we are not the Earthly biological body. And secondly, i also know that any spiritual being can appear unseen. So how can they simply disappear, yet still be heard, as though they are still in the same location, as before being unseen. & yet still some Earthlings still hear their thoughts, but they are invisible to sight. Well, that is because they are still there, because they are "more" than the spiritual body, they are the invisible Soul'self...they are not the spiritual body, as the spiritual body is just a non intelligent, non aware & a non conscious part of them & ourselves, just as the organic biological Earthly physical body is non conscious, non aware & non intelligent & not who we are. Every part of us, that is not the invisible Soul, is subject to mind of Soul'self. And, a person who has not had phenomenal experiences as such, can not fully grasp the concept of Soul, & or the severity & importance of steering well clear of unlovingness, because that great law wreaks absolute havoc on all Souls/Selves, of which we are...(& not what we have). Believe it or not, as i TRUELY do not worry if anyone believes or not... Also all of the above is for anyones considerations. And ps..before you say it "Sky"...I already know that you do not believe it....And that I am also not concerned about. |
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Darwin’s theory therefore is not proven, since it claims that natural selection is the ONLY driving force of evolution. Atheists positively believe that natural selection is the only driving force of evolution – an unproven statement. So Atheism has its doctrine. Quote:
To say “there is no supernatural power that guides evolution because we already know that natural selection causes evolution” is about as naive as to say “no further factors cause cancer, since we know that smoking causes cancer.” Quote:
The textbook we use in Clinical and Cognitive Psychology “Cognitive Psychology” (Sternberg, 2015) says it as follows: “...A related error occurs when we fail to recognize that many phenomena have multiple causes. For example, a car accident often involves several causes. It may have originated with the negligence of several drivers, rather than just one. Once we have identified one of the suspected causes of a phenomenon, we may commit what is known as a discounting error. We stop searching for additional alternative or contributing causes.” (p. 471) Quote:
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Your reasoning that ''it isn't proven'' because it does not incorporate some 'supernatural power' is flawed. To put it simply, with the principle of parsimony we go with the simplest explanations that requires the least assumptions, and avoid unnecessary concepts. When we observe how life evolves on earth we do not require any supernatural power or god to explain how it evolves. In this case, god or supernatural power is an unnecessary concept.
That indeed does not mean there isn't a ''possibility'' that your god is guiding every single event in nature (which would lead to all sorts of contradicting issues, and a huge philosophical mess), however we simply do not need your god to explain it. You may entertain the ideas, just like you may entertain the idea that in a few minutes time you will come in as a sub in the current Norwich City vs Manchester City match. :D |
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You made some valid points in your argument. But then, there are some people now, who are Christians, that believe it was God(s)/god(s) that created evolution. |
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Interesting observation. Remove one variable (soul) and we seem to come up with the same answer: intriguing. |
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