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I'm not going to offer up any truths here because I think those have been totally lost in the sands of time. Christianity had a penchant for co-opting the beliefs of other religions and at the time there was political leverage of having an all-powerful God - who they co-opted from Zoroaster. As I understand it there was also rivalry going on with a number of other prophets, including Muhammed. Having a prophet who was the Son of the all-powerful sky-daddy who wasn't just imbued with Christed Consciousness but was Christ...... Regardless of whether Christ existed or not or what he was or wasn't, personally I think the message is far more important than the messenger. Jesus' messages make sense in the right context - in the context of Christianity and society as it was at that time.Jesus went AWOL for sixteen years and apparently he spent time with Hindus, Buddhists, Druids to name but a few. If you spend a little time getting behind the words, what Jesus was teaching wasn't that far away from what Buddha and a few others also taught. Jesus said that his father was in heaven, and even as an atheist I can connect to that. Much of what he said wasn't Christian (God without) at all but Gnostic (God within) - which is in alignment with what some of the other main religions teach. Jesus' teachings aren't false, they just need interpreting. His teachings were 'moulded' to suit the politics of the Bible, but at the same time I firmly believe that there were those that would have tried to preserve the original teachings as much as possible. If you look carefully you can pick up hints that there is wisdom deliberately hidden in the Bible. Much of what religion has become is a control mechanism for the elite - God made man, man made religion and religion made God. |
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Just out of interest, the Mayan Popul Vuh agrees with the Sumerians in the creation of man and in the flood. |
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Tolle talks about what he calls space consciousness and object consciousness. He defines object consciousness as anything to do with the brain such as beliefs, knowledge, reasoning, thinking and understandings gained by the processing of those. Anything that is form so generally that's anything related to the brain/mind. He doesn't expand much on space consciousness other than it's beyond/above space consciousness. but I'm guessing he means Gnosis. |
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....no caves (that I remember), Greenslade, just vibes. That's always how one recognizes the resonance of Kindred Spirits. Looked up "Kosh" in Wikipedia. Babylon 5 sounds like my kind of Sci Fi. |
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You haven't seen Babylon 5??? There's definitely something missing from your education. :hug3: It never attracted the budget nor the following that Star Trek did but in many ways the stories were far better because there always seemed to be long-running threads weaving themselves through. Kosh was one of the more intriguing characters, his race was deeply Spiritual. One of his moments - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jli3ruqWYlc |
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watched the 'Kosh revealed' youtube...I will watch the 10 best arc stories with the best of the 5 episodes...to see what you mean. Comments left are very impassioned. :smile: |
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Ha! Excellent.:hug3: |
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I spent all last week with Stephen Wolinsky on YouTube. He is a disciple of Nisargadatta Maharaj and Stephen Wolinsky wrote a non-dual treatise on A Course In Miracles, however I spent most of my time listening to his audiobook called "Waking From the Trance" and I was amazed by this video on non duality from a S&ND interview. https://youtu.be/bkIKXgiKvCM I totally loved this, because my head was just nodding all the way through it... He basically said there is no "I" in "I am that" because by the time a "non dual state" has been attained, there is no longer any "I" that can have the experience of it...and "I" have been saying exactly the same thing for years now... I was going to post something about this in the non-duality forum...thought better of it... Welcome to Quantum Consciousness, Miss H. |
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Hi Greenslade, Thanks for sharing the Kosh youtube segment. While thinking about what I viewed, I was struck by the similarities in the dependence on technology by the human participants in Sci Fi series you mentioned, Star Trek and Babylon 5, not to mention Star Wars, Stargate Atlantis, Battlestar Galactica, and so many others. I understand that our present level of Spiritual understanding still requires the use of "technological tools" to depict "future progress" to the present-day audiences who remain so dependent upon it, even while they watch. It occurred to me that one of the reasons why "aliens" haven't yet landed among us "en mass" is because we would be simply overwhelmed to realize that "They have always been here" (to paraphrase Kosh's phrase in your earlier post). :smile: ....just on a "different" channel, so to speak, of the true simultaneity that is Infinite Consciousness, that some scientists are calling "Quantum Consciousness" and some religious texts have called "Many Mansions in our Father's House". To properly greet those ever-present neighbors who are nowhere (now-here) to be found, I'll paraphrase the words of Desi Arnaz, from that excellent "Sci Fi" TV show from the 50's, "I Love Lucy" , ...."Lucy, we've got some catchin' up to do"! :smile: Compared to the infinite Spiritual Knowledge with which we have all been endowed, but have yet to learn how to properly utilize, I guess we'll have to continue relying on our own limited, earth-bound "alien" technology we've myopically put in its place, until we realize that: We have always been Who we truly are, awaiting our own remembrance, on Earth, that I AM THAT I AM, as in Heaven. Guthrio Hopefully, humanity will someday realize that we've never needed the substitution of "technological advances" or "artificial intelligence" to live our lives or to greet our omnipresent neighbors because like them, "We are the technology" itself. http://www.spiritualforums.com/vb/sh...67&postcount=8 "Howdy, neighbors! Long time no see... Where you been keepin' yourselves? " :hug3: |
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