Life changing NDE

[MARDAV70]

I had a heart attack in 1997 at the age of 58 and with it a NDE. I'm a gay male, was raised Christian. I began questioning the bible as I learned about science in school. I began to look at the bible as a collection of parables and symbolic lessons. I still believed in God/Jesus, and prayed...and prayed...that God would take the "curse" of gayness from me.
I wasn't a bad kid/guy. In fact, some of the guys I went to church with were full of mischief. I always tried to do what Jesus would expect of me. So I couldn't figure out why I had this big burden on my shoulders. And why even the worst of the lot was rewarded with a wife and family...and what had I done to have this denied to me. What sin did I do? One of my last prayers was that I know God would reveal to me what terrible thing I was guilty of when I needed it. Never happened...after 20 or so years. So, over time I just thought, the heck with it. There's no God, no afterlife. I wasn't bitter...just accepted the facts. It didn't bother me that when I take my last breath I would no longer exist.
I still admired and tried to practice "The Golden Rule" just because it was the decent way for a person to conduct themselves.

Well. lo and behold. I had a heart attack. I knew what it was soon after the pain started...and I can tell you that the pain was the worst physical I'd ever experienced. Unbearable pain that you must endure because you have no other choice. I didn't care how, I only wanted that incredibly terrible pain to stop. My partner called the EMTs. They arrived and put me on the gurney and rolled me into the ambulance. In the ambulance the EMT told me they were going to stablize me before they took off.

Everything was black. Nothing scary. I was just..."there". I knew of no past, nothing in my mind of knowledge of anything. I felt as if I'd just come into existence. As I looked around and saw nothing but blackness...I wondered "what?"....not in English, but feeling the essence of the word. Then, I saw blue sky and plants come into view from my left. As they became clearer I felt a welcoming and love from the plants. Finally, I was on like a hill, far out in the country away from civilization, with these plants and trees ahead of me down in what looked like a stream might be there. I knew beyond that there was something wonderful. I thought to myself "so this is the way it is" (in English). I sensed a feeling of "wholeness" and a perception of experiencing reality as never in this life. As I was so excited and anxious to cross over that area of trees/plants I found I couldn't move my feet. As I looked down to see why, I saw not my feet, but instead was looking out into a light grey blue mist that kind of resembled the universe. The area was extremely vast and went on into eternity. There were a few lines going in different directions and one or two that were arched. There was a huge sphere. It looked like a distant huge planet or dimmed sun-like star, but much, much larger. I don't know what those things were or what they meant. I didn't question...I just looked in awe. Then as I was taking it all in, to my right I saw what looked like a cross between little t.v. screens and bubbles...like rectangular shaped dark grey bubbles. One flashed in a fraction of a second. I knew it was this life and that I had to return to it. I saw how people are so into themselves and ignore the spiritual within them. I didn't want to go back to it. I wanted to stay there. But it seemed to come from within me that I had to return to this life. I was so disappointed I had to come back. I'm sure all those other little screens/bubbles were my other lives.
So, I opened my eyes and saw that EMT guy hurriedly working. occupied with his equipment trying to save my life. I thought to myself "well, here I am again. Guess I gotta put up with this existence for a while". The pain was back, and hurt every bit as much as before...but it meant nothing and I didn't care about it.

When I woke up in ICCU I knew what had happened to me. But I was confused as to why I didn't see the tunnel...the bright light. I felt like an 18 year old...eager to get out of that hospital and learn, do research...on things I knew little about...spirituality, physics, astronomy, ancient civilizations. I felt better (physically) than I can't remember when.
But more than that, I knew that the most important thing that exists is unconditional love. Something we all must-NO exceptions-do in order to make this a better world...because when this life is done, we'll have to return. I don't remember being told that or experiencing learning it...I just knew it. And I understand it.
(After getting home I did research on NDEs. I found that many NDEs do not involve the tunnel and the light.)

Something else that is within me is a feeling. I don't know if there's any validity to it or not...but what I feel is we're on the brink of a major, major change. That we're on the threshold of an evolutionary upgrade (?), that materialism, greed and selfishness will die and we'll become far more spiritual beings in service to each other. Maybe it's just a manifestation of what I'd experienced translated for my ego's benefit, and maybe there is something to it...I don't know.

But, no matter what we believe or don't believe (it doesn't matter), unconditional love and practicing the Golden Rule can only bring about good things.

Namaste

[Miss Hepburn]

I sensed a feeling of "wholeness" and a perception of experiencing reality as never in this life.


I knew that the most important thing that exists is unconditional love. I just knew it. And I understand it.


Something else that is within me is a feeling.
I don't know if there's any validity to it or not...but what I feel
is we're on the
brink of a major, major change.
That we're on the threshold of an evolutionary upgrade .

But, no matter what we believe or don't believe (it doesn't matter), unconditional love
and practicing the Golden Rule can only bring about good things.


Ah...music to my ears. :hug2:

Thank you for taking the time to write this for us.
And here I was thinking I'd read every NDE there is. LOL :wink:

[knightofalbion]

But, no matter what we believe or don't believe (it doesn't matter), unconditional love and practicing the Golden Rule can only bring about good things.



And in so doing we fulfil ourselves and live up to the Spirit within ...

[Moon_Glow]

:smile: Thank you for sharing your story - I found it very touching. I appreciate you sharing your wisdom with us

[Native spirit]

I have had three NDE i am a medium so death doesnt phase me i know what to expect.the colors of everything is so pure so clean green of the grass and trees are beautiful and im not a fan of green ,it is full of love and finally being home, i was sent back once by my grandmother twice by my guide who told me people still needed my help,i have nursed friends until they passed. im a carer anyway but im also a councellor being gay is nothing to be scared off you are what you are i have gay friends,and some of them are the most loyal,it was nice reading another persons experiance of nde, so i thank you for sharing that,

Namaste

[MARDAV70]

I have had three NDE i am a medium so death doesnt phase me i know what to expect.the colors of everything is so pure so clean green of the grass and trees are beautiful and im not a fan of green ,it is full of love and finally being home, i was sent back once by my grandmother twice by my guide who told me people still needed my help,i have nursed friends until they passed. im a carer anyway but im also a councellor being gay is nothing to be scared off you are what you are i have gay friends,and some of them are the most loyal,it was nice reading another persons experiance of nde, so i thank you for sharing that,

Namaste

I was only afraid of my gayness when I was a Christian. After I rejected Christianity I still believed in God, but felt God really was loving and didn't care about sexuality. When I became an atheist...well, guess what...lol...! Now I have a NDE behind me. There is no judgement in the "afterlife"...only enlightenment. There is no such place as hell. If the Christianity I was taught was right, I would have gone there. The place I went to was so incredibly wonderful I didn't want to leave it. I actually look forward to the day I'll be going back.

[Tobi]

Thank you for your post. It literally brought tears to my eyes. Many, many blessings to you in this world and the next.

[Michelle11]

Absolutely beautiful. Thanks for sharing.

[MARDAV70]

Thank you for your post. It literally brought tears to my eyes. Many, many blessings to you in this world and the next.
Thanks so much, and thanks much more for that wonderful link. We had a dog named Mitzi. She was a lab/beagle mix. Her hair and coloring was just like a beagle, but much closer to the size of a lab. She was beautiful. And smart! We'd spell things we didn't want her to hear, but she picked up after one or two times. I swear, she had human in her.
She communicated with me telepathically a couple times. Sadly, she communicated that she had something wrong inside and would be leaving us soon (she was only 7 years old). I didn't believe what I was sensing, but about a month later the vet found she had a kidney infection that couldn't be cured. We had to have her put down. I cried like a little kid...I felt like I lost a child.
I'm certain all living things have consciousness just as we do. And what affirms it for me are several NDE stories I've read involving pets that have passed over previous to the NDEr.

Namaste

[MARDAV70]

I appreciate all the responses, support and well wishes. Thanks to all. It's great to be able to share my experiences. I'm very open and have shared them with my friends, but I kinda wonder what they really think. One seemed very spiritual and supportive, but sadly it turns out she's very jaded with materialism and elitism, which she (and her husband) have passed onto their kids.

Namaste

[Imzadi]

But, no matter what we believe or don't believe (it doesn't matter), unconditional love and practicing the Golden Rule can only bring about good things.

Namaste

Thank you so much for sharing this beautiful transcendental experience with us! Where you were during your NDE seems to be the ultimate reality whereas we are all visiting this particular world and reality to bring about the integration of the beautiful Unconditional Love/Divine Love which can be realized through Self Love (not the egocentric kind) and unconditional Self Acceptance of who WE truly are. We are LOVE itself at the deepest core of our being never truly separated from Source. I have Faith that humanity is definitely on the verge of a global mass Awakening to that LOVE. Heaven on Earth is not too far along now as more and more people become Awake, we are able to make it easier (while holding the vibration of Unconditional Love) for others to become Awake as well. :)

Namaste :hug3:

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[Tobi]

Thanks so much, and thanks much more for that wonderful link. We had a dog named Mitzi. She was a lab/beagle mix. Her hair and coloring was just like a beagle, but much closer to the size of a lab. She was beautiful. And smart! We'd spell things we didn't want her to hear, but she picked up after one or two times. I swear, she had human in her.
She communicated with me telepathically a couple times. Sadly, she communicated that she had something wrong inside and would be leaving us soon (she was only 7 years old). I didn't believe what I was sensing, but about a month later the vet found she had a kidney infection that couldn't be cured. We had to have her put down. I cried like a little kid...I felt like I lost a child.
I'm certain all living things have consciousness just as we do. And what affirms it for me are several NDE stories I've read involving pets that have passed over previous to the NDEr.

Namaste

How wonderful that you had such a link with Mitzi. Our fur-coated/feathered/scaled friends and companions are always happy when we can communicate with them, without the 'human barrier'.

They are often the dearest friends, with such a natural capacity for the unconditional love we all have within us, but sometimes think is hard to find. They teach us how.

Sometimes it's hard to see their spiritual abilities in this world, but they all have their abilities, just as we have, and those things become obvious in the 'next world'. The depth of their Soul Friendship and their intelligence becomes more clear.

Mitzi hasn't forgotten you! You will no doubt meet her again one day.

My dog visits/communicates fairly regularly. She passed from hemangiosarcoma nearly 4 years ago. Tremendous peace, love and joyful happiness heralds her approach! Thus I conclude she is surely in a fantastic 'place' out there.

[Lynn]

Hello

I had a NDE when I was 21 years old and I too never had the tunnel or White Light. I am a Medium so I know well that White Light is real and is there for those to cross into when they get Earth Bound. So I too struggled with what was happening. It was come years later that I was part of a study group and the did a scan on my heart and found that it did indeed stop but re start on its own in the fall.

I was at the top of a flight of 18 stairs and I went face first down them hitting everyone with my chest as I went. In this at some point my heart was damaged and stopped. I was unconscious on the bottom of the stairs for I do not know how long. They figure the impact on the cement at the bottom re started the heart slowly as I started to come too.

This was at a best friends house and they never called 911 for me they picked me up and drove me to the ER dropped me in a wheel chair and left. I do not recall the ride there. I do not recall getting home. I remember getting X Rays and stitched up. I shattered all my teeth and later found out I fractured C4 and my jaw. I knew at the ER something was very wrong with me but I could not relay that and was sent home that night. Thinking it was only a fall I had and I was fine. They were so wrong.

What happened to me happened for a reason it was very much a planned event, it was a lesson event. I remember looking down at my body in a pool of blood, teeth everywhere wondering where help was, why no sirens we coming. I met with someone in a room, I was told I had a choice to make, that I had something to change. What had happened that night is that me and my friend had crossed the line in the sand in doing paranormal things and that was not the path I was to be on. I was ready to use what and whom I am on someone for not good reasons. I was told more about the power that I held and that I had learned the lessons needed in the"Dark Light" to use it in the "White Light". I was told that I could if I wished go back into my body but that I would suffer for a time healing. That if I went back and stayed in the darker path that next time death would come to me in full. I somehow understood my path from there and I agreed to go back, not knowing what I could do with what I am.

In going back it was a year that is a nightmare that I remember very little of. It was time off work and a year of getting my jaw to open to get my teeth worked on. It was 6 months of sleeping sitting up as when I layed down I would pass out. I knew something was wrong. I finally got a DR to hear me and they found the C4 and jaw fractures. As all I could do was get up go to work and come home and almost die in pain, I could not do the dark stuff I was into. I just survived day to day. The next year was healing and therapy and lots of dental work.

It was in those two years of healing and I understood that I could help others with paranormal issues and do readings ext.

There are times when an NDE is a lesson event. So you are not going to get the Tunnel of Light as your Soul is not ready to leave you.

Lynn

[Miss Hepburn]

I remember this story, Lynn!
Wow.

[vespa68]

My guide says there is no real tunnel or white light per say. Its more of symbolism. The light is just the truth of who we really are and what really is beyond, because we are in a 3d illusion right now. I totally agree that big changes are on the way, there will be a huge upcoming vibrational shift.

[wolfgaze]

Thanks for writing about your experience MARDAV...

[MARDAV70]

How wonderful that you had such a link with Mitzi. Our fur-coated/feathered/scaled friends and companions are always happy when we can communicate with them, without the 'human barrier'.

They are often the dearest friends, with such a natural capacity for the unconditional love we all have within us, but sometimes think is hard to find. They teach us how.

Sometimes it's hard to see their spiritual abilities in this world, but they all have their abilities, just as we have, and those things become obvious in the 'next world'. The depth of their Soul Friendship and their intelligence becomes more clear.

Mitzi hasn't forgotten you! You will no doubt meet her again one day.

My dog visits/communicates fairly regularly. She passed from hemangiosarcoma nearly 4 years ago. Tremendous peace, love and joyful happiness heralds her approach! Thus I conclude she is surely in a fantastic 'place' out there.

After Mitzi was put down, I was overcome with grief. So much so, I greatly pondered the question...do animals have spirits? I heard and instant "yes, every living thing has. She is here".

I felt Mitzi every once in a while...haven't since we got another dog (who is 15 now, and sadly is near the point of being put down soon due to arthritis). A few days after Mitzi passed I was on my way to work and I felt her presence (worked nights). It was as if I "heard" her say "I want to see where you go every night. It must be wonderful if you go there every night and I'm excited to find out". I felt her come inside with me, and felt her presence when our group went out to do our jobs. On my way home from work, I "heard"..."That's it??? That's where you go??? What a disappointment! Why do you even do that?". In my mind I told her humans have to go to work to make a living. She didn't understand, so I reworded. I said "humans must do things for each other. When we do, we're given a reward/treat that is not food. We take that reward and exchange it for food and other things we need". I felt from her "how silly".
Domesticated animals are special...especially dogs...they're here to give whatever service of them we need. I think sometimes they're in awe of us.

[MARDAV70]

Hello

I had a NDE when I was 21 years old and I too never had the tunnel or White Light. I am a Medium so I know well that White Light is real and is there for those to cross into when they get Earth Bound. So I too struggled with what was happening. It was come years later that I was part of a study group and the did a scan on my heart and found that it did indeed stop but re start on its own in the fall.

I was at the top of a flight of 18 stairs and I went face first down them hitting everyone with my chest as I went. In this at some point my heart was damaged and stopped. I was unconscious on the bottom of the stairs for I do not know how long. They figure the impact on the cement at the bottom re started the heart slowly as I started to come too.

This was at a best friends house and they never called 911 for me they picked me up and drove me to the ER dropped me in a wheel chair and left. I do not recall the ride there. I do not recall getting home. I remember getting X Rays and stitched up. I shattered all my teeth and later found out I fractured C4 and my jaw. I knew at the ER something was very wrong with me but I could not relay that and was sent home that night. Thinking it was only a fall I had and I was fine. They were so wrong.

What happened to me happened for a reason it was very much a planned event, it was a lesson event. I remember looking down at my body in a pool of blood, teeth everywhere wondering where help was, why no sirens we coming. I met with someone in a room, I was told I had a choice to make, that I had something to change. What had happened that night is that me and my friend had crossed the line in the sand in doing paranormal things and that was not the path I was to be on. I was ready to use what and whom I am on someone for not good reasons. I was told more about the power that I held and that I had learned the lessons needed in the"Dark Light" to use it in the "White Light". I was told that I could if I wished go back into my body but that I would suffer for a time healing. That if I went back and stayed in the darker path that next time death would come to me in full. I somehow understood my path from there and I agreed to go back, not knowing what I could do with what I am.

In going back it was a year that is a nightmare that I remember very little of. It was time off work and a year of getting my jaw to open to get my teeth worked on. It was 6 months of sleeping sitting up as when I layed down I would pass out. I knew something was wrong. I finally got a DR to hear me and they found the C4 and jaw fractures. As all I could do was get up go to work and come home and almost die in pain, I could not do the dark stuff I was into. I just survived day to day. The next year was healing and therapy and lots of dental work.

It was in those two years of healing and I understood that I could help others with paranormal issues and do readings ext.

There are times when an NDE is a lesson event. So you are not going to get the Tunnel of Light as your Soul is not ready to leave you.

Lynn

Thanks for your story, Lynn. I'm saddened for your terrible accident. With me, the heart attack was the most painful thing I'd ever experienced...but directly after the NDE it meant nothing.
I'm happy that you've gained an insight and are able to help people. That must be very rewarding.

I've several times heard of a "silver thread" that attaches our consciousness to this life, and when that thread is severed is when the finality of leaving our physical body until our next incarnation.

I don't know if my NDE was a lesson or not...but I sure was disappointed when I opened my eyes and saw that EMT feverishly working...(lol) I knew he was the reason I was back...!

[MARDAV70]

Thanks for writing about your experience MARDAV...

I'm always glad to share...and learn from others that share their stories...a give and take that's so important.

[Michelle11]

Hello

I had a NDE when I was 21 years old and I too never had the tunnel or White Light. I am a Medium so I know well that White Light is real and is there for those to cross into when they get Earth Bound. So I too struggled with what was happening. It was come years later that I was part of a study group and the did a scan on my heart and found that it did indeed stop but re start on its own in the fall.

I was at the top of a flight of 18 stairs and I went face first down them hitting everyone with my chest as I went. In this at some point my heart was damaged and stopped. I was unconscious on the bottom of the stairs for I do not know how long. They figure the impact on the cement at the bottom re started the heart slowly as I started to come too.

This was at a best friends house and they never called 911 for me they picked me up and drove me to the ER dropped me in a wheel chair and left. I do not recall the ride there. I do not recall getting home. I remember getting X Rays and stitched up. I shattered all my teeth and later found out I fractured C4 and my jaw. I knew at the ER something was very wrong with me but I could not relay that and was sent home that night. Thinking it was only a fall I had and I was fine. They were so wrong.

What happened to me happened for a reason it was very much a planned event, it was a lesson event. I remember looking down at my body in a pool of blood, teeth everywhere wondering where help was, why no sirens we coming. I met with someone in a room, I was told I had a choice to make, that I had something to change. What had happened that night is that me and my friend had crossed the line in the sand in doing paranormal things and that was not the path I was to be on. I was ready to use what and whom I am on someone for not good reasons. I was told more about the power that I held and that I had learned the lessons needed in the"Dark Light" to use it in the "White Light". I was told that I could if I wished go back into my body but that I would suffer for a time healing. That if I went back and stayed in the darker path that next time death would come to me in full. I somehow understood my path from there and I agreed to go back, not knowing what I could do with what I am.

In going back it was a year that is a nightmare that I remember very little of. It was time off work and a year of getting my jaw to open to get my teeth worked on. It was 6 months of sleeping sitting up as when I layed down I would pass out. I knew something was wrong. I finally got a DR to hear me and they found the C4 and jaw fractures. As all I could do was get up go to work and come home and almost die in pain, I could not do the dark stuff I was into. I just survived day to day. The next year was healing and therapy and lots of dental work.

It was in those two years of healing and I understood that I could help others with paranormal issues and do readings ext.

There are times when an NDE is a lesson event. So you are not going to get the Tunnel of Light as your Soul is not ready to leave you.

Lynn

Wow, Lynn, that was quite an intense way to get the point across to you that you were going in the wrong direction. It was brave of you to come back to all that pain. Thanks for sharing your story.

[Sarian]

Thank you for sharing your story.

I foolishly tried to end my life years ago. Horrible, horrible relationship with an abusive man. I was dying to live but dying while living and the pain just got too unbearable. I was on so many antidepressants for depression what was simply caused by the ex that they didn't help ...I downed them all with alcohol and then fear set in but I told myself to sleep and it'll all be done. I apologized to my kids in my mind...that's what upset me the most...was what I would be doing to them. ...but I felt I was drowning and of no use.

I don't know how long it was but I heard singing. I heard such a sweet sound and singing. Voices singing my name in a somewhat singsong way, but ever so gently saying my name over and over and telling me to wake up! wake up! Almost cheerfully. I opened my eyes in my mind (it could of all been a dream but it didn't seem so) and I saw three orb heads, and I thought they looked like three glowing balloons. They did not have mouths, or ears or noses but I saw where eyes would be which were just dark but not frightening looking in any way. And yet while they had no mouths or noses it was like I knew they were there and I could hear them singing and see them smiling and I remember thinking they are smiling but they have no mouths, they are singing yet they have no mouths...and I thought they radiate such beauty and love though. I was messermized by it all, and the beautiful sounds they made and how they made me feel. Then I woke up abruptly and puked my guts out. I was SOOOOOOOOOOO thankful though and those visions or orbs or angels or beings, whatever they were are forever etched in my mind. Funny thing is just recently I had been listening to a book on CD, channeled beings which I never believed in before but felt compelled to listen to and in one segment I was blown away because they described the same things.