What exactly happens after death?

[ashleysma]

I know we live on, but what exactly happens? Do we all roam the earth as earthbound spirits, or go to heaven, or some other place?

[LoveRules21494]

When one dies they go to either heaven or hell. You get to either place according to how good or bad you've led your life. I:ve read many books on near death experiences and all describe heaven as beyond breathtakingly beautiful. A place of unconditional love. Betty Eadie's book Embraced by the light is an eccellent choice to start with if you're interested in reading more on the matter. Hell, according to Howard Storm in his book, is beyond the most awful thing one can ever imagine. I personally am aiming to go to the first place. Lol.

Did I help answer your question or did you want to know exactly what goes on the second one dies?

[celest]

I,ll let you all know when I get there, promise :D

[durgaa]

This has been answered two posts below this one, and in several other posts.

http://www.spiritualforums.com/vb/showthread.php?t=83005

[Lynn]

Hello

As a Medium if there was this place of Hell I would ask to be struck instantly from the Earth and all the places we exist in connection to it. This Heaven and Hell and Sin perceptions are dated to the times we now live in I so feel.

That said we are welcome to hold in us that belief system that is not my place to judge in mine is to work with both the living left behind and those that have passe on.

There are many a reason why one does not right off cross over into what I see as a doorway of Light that opens for all no matter the life path one has walked. In cases of a sudden death event or a death by the hands of another there is that need to undersatand what happened. In this space when I work with those I can enter with them and re live with them that death event. I feel what they felt at times and I then can show them what happened. To move them over safely in peace.

There are times when one will not go til things have been resolved til that message is clear that they are both safe and cleared. There too are times when one simply can not be crossed as that is not what they want. We can not force the hand of the living or the non living all we can do is guide them the best we can.

I worked on a case once where there was a ladder going up to escape from and one man froze on that ladder going up and in that held two others to pass on. All three were there with me and I had to release that fear from the first one to go over to the Light. That it was safe for them to move forwards. What had happened in life is that all three were wrongly accused of a crime and were walked up the ladder to be hung. That was the image that stuck with the man so trapped in fear that ladder that last place of life. So in death that was the place he got stuck. Earthbound since the time of the Civil War but as time is a man made concept they did not suffer in the passage of that time.

There are times when one has had a sudden death and they stay connected to the earth plane. Here is the story of one soldier I worked with. He stepped on a land mine in a peace keeping mission. He went to the service for the promise of education and a financial future for his young family. Never was it discussed you "might die". This was the time of a closed minded Govt there the bodies coming home were not shown, so that notion of death was not there to see and feel. He was with his wife non stop in spirit though she knew he was gone. He moved over safely and she felt blessed he did.

When we pass we are not judged that is the job of Karma in the many lives we live. To find that place of knowing it all do we not have to live and experience it all to be enlightened.

The best place to walk in life is to follow the path that feels right in your heart and to not be lead by those around us too much.

Lynn

[desert rat]

One can stay earth bound as a ghost , go to the astral plane , or reincarnate . There are heavens and hells , there part of the astral , created by thoes that believe in them .
p.s. This gets asked a lot. We need to keep an after life thread as a kind of a sticky post.

[Olorin]

What exactly happens after death?
Nobody knows.
Different people will tell you different things.
You'll just have to wait and see.

[LadyMay]

I am currently reading a book called Life In The World Unseen by Anthony Borgia and Robert Hugh Benson and I also read A Wanderer In The Spirit Lands by Franchezzo, both of which are great books in describing what it's like on the other side. These are spirits who communicated their death story telepathically with psychics/mediums.

[CrystalSong]

As best as I can make out from an NDE and from working as a Healer with others, where we go and what we experience truly has to do with what we believe will happen.
Now there is a state we will all eventually land in where we do our life review with our Guides and Angels and sort of do an overview of what we've learned and still want to learn and so on. However there are many places we may get stuck for a spell before arriving.
It seems people who do not believe in an continued existence after death of the body kinda exist in a gray place of limbo until something happens that makes them decide to explore further.
Those who have judged themselves worthy of hell create (because the universe reflects our perceptions) a hell for themselves to be in until they are ready to explore beyond that.
Those expecting Angels to come get them and direct them to Heaven experience that.
Some can't visualize anything beyond the earth they've known and so end up staying on here as what we would call a ghost for a while, usually until someone crosses into their dimension and convinces them to continue onwards as Lynn described. I've been involved in those type of helping people also.
Some people aren't ready to let go of their earth illusions of reality and stay on to watch over their fortunes, companies, loved ones or prodigy for a while so focused on it that they don't see another way beckoning.

It seems though that Consciousness is Evolving itself - we are Consciousness. So there's an imperative to continue, progress, move forward. So no matter what belief systems we had a time of bodily death we will eventually, if stuck, become unstuck due to the imperative to evolve and progress.

So it could be that the most useful thing is to believe what supports the ease of evolution and your spirits passage/transition from one state to another (solid to ether). A white light or tunnel leading to higher beings/God/ Angels etc is a useful belief for example.

[TheTruth]

The following page you will find insightful, it is good you are asking this question as it is a transition that is painless and it'll go even smoother if you're prepared.

http://www.afterlife101.com/Chapter8.html

[Miss Hepburn]

I am currently reading a book called Life In The World Unseen by Anthony Borgia and Robert Hugh Benson and I also read A Wanderer In The Spirit Lands by Franchezzo, both of which are great books in describing what it's like on the other side. These are spirits who communicated their death story telepathically with psychics/mediums. You ARE?! :thumbsup:

They are the BEST! They influenced me a great deal.
You know Borgia's book is what "What Dreams May Come " was based on!

I must say, between you and me, the way Father Benson's story
influenced me was...boy, is he settling!
I so do not want
a nice little cottage, friends and a job helping people cross over!
There are much Higher Celestial Spheres!
His second book 'More in the Life Unseen'...he gets into other things, you
will love it!
I could not find one book online where the binding did not fall apart, btw.
Bad glue! Sent them back.
Have you seen 'Astral City: A Spiritual Journey'?...Excellent on Netflix...assuming Netflix is in England?

Chico Xavier is another that was very in touch with communications
from the Other Side!

[SemperVI]

I know we live on, but what exactly happens? Do we all roam the earth as earthbound spirits, or go to heaven, or some other place?

Lots of valid answers regarding the question you asked... Perhaps the answer lies within the individual's experience and perspective.

[LadyMay]

I must say, between you and me, the way Father Benson's story
influenced me was...boy, is he settling!
I so do not want
a nice little cottage, friends and a job helping people cross over!
There are much Higher Celestial Spheres!

Hahaha, I thought that too, but it's where his perception was at, and it's interesting in its own way, knowing what it's like straight after death, in the 'transition phase' :wink:. I've read multidimensional man's entire website and that gives the best description of the higher realms that people rarely see and come back to tell about, since it's so far away from the earth plane. I have it on my list to read his entire book too for more info.

His second book 'More in the Life Unseen'...he gets into other things, you will love it!

Didn't know there was a sequel, thanks, I'll read that after! No need to worry about binding and glue lol, this is an age where everything can be downloaded. :tongue:

Have you seen 'Astral City: A Spiritual Journey'?...Excellent on Netflix...assuming Netflix is in England?

Nope, I've kept trying to find it to watch, but don't you need to pay a subscription for Netflix?

Chico Xavier is another that was very in touch with communications from the Other Side!

I'll be putting this one on my list too! To add, Testimony of Light by Helen Greaves is also another great one. I enjoyed reading about when she 'found her soul'.

[Miss Hepburn]

Netflix in England should be about 8-10 pounds a month.

[TheTruth]

You can try netflix free for one month as well :)

[Fairyana]

If you don't mind watchin movies with subtitles, here's the live of Chico Xavier with relatively decent subtitles. The other movies I came across had weird automatic translations.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNu0BX72dKM&list=PLmxF9WggRKUbhvkdw3RoyjHFelSDOi6xr

I was trying to see if they has the Astral City on Youtube, but they don't have one with English sub. There is another movie that depicts the afterlife according the medium communication of Chico, it's called "And Life Goes On". The underlining message is deep, meaningful,... but the acting, the scrip and the directing are pretty bad. lol

[Miss Hepburn]

You can try netflix free for one month as well :)
I thought that last night! :thumbsup:

Thanks for those links on Chico, Fairyana!

[Fairyana]

You're welcome, Miss Hepburn! An interesting fact about the behind the scenes. The actor who played Chico was an atheist. But during the process of making the movie, he felt something so spiritually strong, he felt such a big presence of Chico there with him, that by the end of the shootings he confessed in tears that the experience transformed him into a believer. :-)

[Jeff4freedom]

The Biggest problem I have with Religion
is the fact that it has fed humanity Half Truth's
(which are the worst kind of lies),
about the biggest questions of Life.
This has quenched their desire to Know the Truth
about the most important things a soul can learn.
Religion has been the biggest impediment
to the evolution of Humanity.
When half lies are accepted as Truth,
and questioning stops...
.so does the evolution of the soul of Humanity
and of the Individual.

This is most evident in the Knowledge
of what happens when our bodies die.

Religion attempts to quell this questioning in mankind
by giving a bogus answer
that has only a very little amount of actual Truth in it.
I'm not sure what the motivation the "Church" had in doing this, I don't believe it was simple Ignorance, but rather that it had some devious purpose.
One of the greatest lessons a person can learn, is how to die.
This should be taught in school.
Why?
Because in that stage of Life we call death,
human evolution can be greatly amplified,
but as most religions have set it up...
.this can not occur.

OK, here's some Background since folks always want credentials from a Speaker.

When I was younger in this life, and in my last one I had teachers that taught me a technique of meditation which I have come to call,"yoga of the death state".
This was basically instruction in how to go through the process of dying,
without actually having the silver cord that attaches our soul to our body, severed as in a total death....
but other than that,
it was the same experience.
What I was taught was how to get the most evolution out of Dying, and as I said, this should be taught in school.

Thousands of years ago I believe this was common knowledge, but religion has stupified the masses into believing their little Fairy Tales, that actually do have some basis in reality (as I mentioned they are Half Truth's)...which are the worst kind.
So what I'm going to do here is explain the process of death, without all the unnecessary stuff that the Tibetans and Egyptians put in there which was pretty much culture specific...and dealt with areas that have nothing to do with helping the soul evolve, in fact quite the opposite.
So I guess first I'll describe the process very simply, and somewhere along the line tell you what needs to be done to gain the most benefit.
The Process:
Well let me first say that not everyone will be aware of the experience in the same way.
Very young souls, lacking reference points from previous deaths will be kind of unconscious because of the lack of these reference points, like the Indians that could not perceive Columbus's ships because they were so far from their reality.... But maybe if people were taught about this while living, they could better relate while dying.
OK, First thing that happens is a Popping kind of sound in your neck region.....this is where your consciousness disconnects from your brain.
From here it enters the spinal column
(the tunnel of Light as some NDE folks report).
Now this is the astral plane and the Laws that Govern the Astral Plane come into effect.
OK, when we talk about the astral plane,

and the position to take for the most benefit when dying,

…. we are talking about the same thing.

In these events we have the three qualities (maybe more, but in my way of seeing at this point) there are 3 qualities that determine experience of the astral plane, three qualities that determine the experience of Death…

These three qualities, or Laws are the Law of Intention/Attention, the Law of Magnetism, and the Law of Momentum. These are what I call the astral laws. The counterpart of Magnetism on the physical plane is Gravity. The counterpart of Momentum is Time on the physical plane….and the counterpart of Intention/attention….. is Intention/attention.
Let’s look at it from the death point of view just to make it so I don’t have to write so much, because they are all the same.

In death “where we go” is determined first by our “magnetism”…by that peculiar vibrational state that our astral being exhibits.

We are magnetized in a certain way depending upon who we are, we are a certain blend of the hues that make up the rainbow. Anyway this “magnetizes” our intentions/attentions direction…

what we will magnetically be pulled towards.

Now the third quality “momentum” literally grabs us and pulls us in to where the magnetism moves us or our intentions focus is.




Ok, so POP...were suddenly in this Tunnel of Light. And very often this is where folks see what they believe are the souls of their dearly departed. (but they aren't...not yet.) These are actually what I call,"constructs"...another aspect of the astral plane. Constructs are energetic reflections of souls built in astral matter. I guess I should mention here that the astral plane could be called ,"the plane of desire". These constructs are like a mirror image of who we WERE. They are like a shadow....they are energetically who we were yesterday (basically). We all have these, and it should be noted here that "Ghosts" are souls that upon dying "looked" back and gazed upon their own constructs...and through that Law of Magnetism...became attached to them. Also it should be noted that this is fairly rare, as souls in the death stage usually don't turn back....it's like this momentum of Freedom that propels our direction "forward".
So in regards to these apparent dearly departed that "greet" us.... the rule for evolutions sake is.... Ignore them, look beyond them.... they are not the souls of your dearly departed and are bound to the past.
And this brings us to the Main rule of Dying.
Ignore everything you see, except the light on the far side...it looks at first like a small Bright dot in front of you.
The key word here is Bright, because out there there are a lot of ...orbs floating around, they look kind of like planets. A lot of souls won't even notice this because their Magnetism and vibration will suck them into one very quickly....
These are the Heaven and Hell Realms.
This is one of the Half Truths religion gave out.
Yes there are Heavens and Hells.....
And what kind of person you were in Life (because of the Law of Magnetism) will determine which you gravitate towards first.
That is the other thing, you can go to both Heaven and Hell between Lives.
Now Religion has told us that we go there for Eternity....which seems to discount the reality of Reincarnation.... But this is just another half Truth.
Time in these realms is different than in the Physical Reality.
You know how sometimes you will wake up in the morning to your alarm clock, hit a 5 minute snooze...and in those 5 minutes dream a Mini Series..he he. Well Heaven and Hell Realms are like that.
When I was doing the yoga of the death state , and didn't listen to my teachers...and pulled into these realms...... I was there for an eternity....lived a freakin lifetime there, then came out seconds later with the help of my Teachers.... Thank goodness for that, because the momentums there suck you in and pull you along.... and you believe that you are in "reality" ...that this is all there is. It's like you are in a whole nuther life... BUT that so called ETERNITY that you are cursed to spend in Hell or sitting next to God and your old dead Dog, depending on if you are a good Christian or whatever or Not..... that eternity there, is a blink of an eye, here. So no worries about that little carrot or fear that Religion hangs out there....just another half Truth.
So, if you pull into one of these realms, just go with it and do the best you can, there are major lessons to learn there .(remember that these realms are responding to your vibratory nature...and reflect who you are....so learn from it.
BUT if you see them before you get pulled in, look past them. You are better off to just skip the whole Heaven and Hell thing and get on to the Light on the other side.
This is difficult for most souls, as I said the astral plane is the plane of desire, and your desires can get in your faceless face there.
But again, the main rule is to ignore everything except the Light on the other side. If you focus intently on that, the Law of Attention/Intention will pull you there.
Once you get there..... a couple of things, well maybe a few things can happen depending upon your stage of evolution (how long your soul has been around). One is you can seem to be reborn right away. The other is you will suddenly be in the company of a group of souls who you are bound to because of your relative position in the Web and your shared responsibility of evolution....otherwise known as your "group"... This is where the real dearly departed souls that have something for you are. Then as a team you kind of look forward through Physical Time and see ....possible futures depending on possible paths chosen. You choose your next Life.
This is interesting, it's like there is this road ahead with all these different possible options depending upon choices you might make.... and you choose the one that will best allow your soul (and hence the Group) to evolve. And the third option that also is followed by the one that I just mentioned is what I'll call ,Bathing in the Light. It happens as soon as you go into that light that you followed, everything disentigrates into this Huge Ecstasy, this Limitless Bliss where you seem to cease to exist in any form for a time. For my Teachers this was a goal, and the rule was to stay there as long as you can.... your consciousness keeps trying to reassert itself, to define you and pull itself back together... but stay there as long as possible. This is where the most evolution takes place, and the longer you "Bathe" in that Light, the more your soul will evolve..... then you come out and meet the group...and go on.

So that's about it for now... The Tibetans and Egyptians went all into the Realms and talked about that, but the point is to go past that...and besides since these realms are Magnetized by those who experience them, giving generic descriptions is not entirely accurate.
So... Keep your awareness after the POP...
Focus on the Light on the Other side.
When you get there stay as long as Possible.
Simple as that.