VesicaPhoenix11
17-09-2011, 01:35 PM
I am reading (in my limited way) a birth chart for a friend and had a question/comment for any one who may have some advice.
In his 4th house he has first the Sun (in Virgo), followed directly by Mercury, then Pluto, Mars, and Venus (in Libra). Each planet seems to be within a few degrees of each other since all 5 of them are in the 4th house, but I have included the exact data below.
My intuition and the little bit of astrology I have learned over the years is telling me Pluto is a major player in this chart.
My question is - is Pluto THE crux of energies not only in his 4th house - family life in general and his childhood in particular - but also in the rest of his chart?
I know that Pluto is Conjunct his Mercury, Venus, and Mars; trine his Moon, and Jupiter; sextile his Saturn and Neptune; AND square his ascendant. All of which are favorable aspects except for his square the ascendant. I also noticed that Pluto has aspects with all of his planets except his Sun and Uranus.
Sun Virgo 23°26'33 in house 4 direct
Moon Gemini 17°34'22 in house 12 direct
Mercury Libra 4°58'48 in house 4 retrograde
Venus Libra 17°45'37 in house 4 direct
Mars Libra 14°53'15 in house 4 direct
Jupiter Gemini 1°11'11 in house 11 stationary (R)
Saturn Leo 12°29'09 in house 2 direct
Uranus Scorpio 4°51'57 in house 5 direct
Neptune Sagittarius 11°21'16 in house 6 direct
Pluto Libra 10°52'50 in house 4 direct
True Node Scorpio 4°17'14 in house 5 direct
And if this is so - how would that be interpreted? I am thinking after reviewing every aspect of his chart - that there are unconscious transformative energies locked up in his experiences during his childhood with his parents (most likely his father, but maybe also his mother due, among other aspects, to the moon being in the 12th house - house of secrets and hidden things - unconscious aspects) and how he has allowed those experiences to shape his life.
I also notice how his moon while being in the 12th house is connected to his 4th house - because Cancer (which is his Ascendant) is ruled by the moon and the 4th house. Which ties that family influence up, I think, tight like a drum.
And if Pluto does receive special emphasis then I would also think the Uranus placement in the 5th house, in Scorpio (which is ruled by Pluto) should also reflect a little of that. Which in his particular case I think has something to do with his son, since the 5th house relates to children and taking pleasure in them. Uranus in the 5th indicates difficulty with children either being born, being born healthy or the child is "difficult" to manage because they require a level of mutual respect that most children eschew.
So does Pluto have the influence I think it does? And if it does am I correct in thinking that its influence is largely unconscious? And I am also near the mark when I think that they key to its influence on the family/childhood is wrapped up in it conjunctions with Venus, Mars, and Mercury?
In his 4th house he has first the Sun (in Virgo), followed directly by Mercury, then Pluto, Mars, and Venus (in Libra). Each planet seems to be within a few degrees of each other since all 5 of them are in the 4th house, but I have included the exact data below.
My intuition and the little bit of astrology I have learned over the years is telling me Pluto is a major player in this chart.
My question is - is Pluto THE crux of energies not only in his 4th house - family life in general and his childhood in particular - but also in the rest of his chart?
I know that Pluto is Conjunct his Mercury, Venus, and Mars; trine his Moon, and Jupiter; sextile his Saturn and Neptune; AND square his ascendant. All of which are favorable aspects except for his square the ascendant. I also noticed that Pluto has aspects with all of his planets except his Sun and Uranus.
Sun Virgo 23°26'33 in house 4 direct
Moon Gemini 17°34'22 in house 12 direct
Mercury Libra 4°58'48 in house 4 retrograde
Venus Libra 17°45'37 in house 4 direct
Mars Libra 14°53'15 in house 4 direct
Jupiter Gemini 1°11'11 in house 11 stationary (R)
Saturn Leo 12°29'09 in house 2 direct
Uranus Scorpio 4°51'57 in house 5 direct
Neptune Sagittarius 11°21'16 in house 6 direct
Pluto Libra 10°52'50 in house 4 direct
True Node Scorpio 4°17'14 in house 5 direct
And if this is so - how would that be interpreted? I am thinking after reviewing every aspect of his chart - that there are unconscious transformative energies locked up in his experiences during his childhood with his parents (most likely his father, but maybe also his mother due, among other aspects, to the moon being in the 12th house - house of secrets and hidden things - unconscious aspects) and how he has allowed those experiences to shape his life.
I also notice how his moon while being in the 12th house is connected to his 4th house - because Cancer (which is his Ascendant) is ruled by the moon and the 4th house. Which ties that family influence up, I think, tight like a drum.
And if Pluto does receive special emphasis then I would also think the Uranus placement in the 5th house, in Scorpio (which is ruled by Pluto) should also reflect a little of that. Which in his particular case I think has something to do with his son, since the 5th house relates to children and taking pleasure in them. Uranus in the 5th indicates difficulty with children either being born, being born healthy or the child is "difficult" to manage because they require a level of mutual respect that most children eschew.
So does Pluto have the influence I think it does? And if it does am I correct in thinking that its influence is largely unconscious? And I am also near the mark when I think that they key to its influence on the family/childhood is wrapped up in it conjunctions with Venus, Mars, and Mercury?