View Full Version : Am I weird for thinking this way?
angel6m2000
06-07-2011, 02:55 AM
I feel like I deal with death a lot differently then others. I know everyone has their own way of grieving but it seems like mine is different. I realize that death is natural and embrace the idea that the dead's souls are going through a cycle, and it just happens that they moved into the non-physical one. I used to be afraid of death but I now understand that it plays a vital role in the process of enlightenment. Our physical bodies must die so that our souls may go on to a different life to understand, reach, and teach the way of the light.
Just thought I'd share that.
Why would thinking that be weird? I think most would be in agreement with what you've said. We should celebrate that one has been able to continue their journey throughout this grand creation.
not human
06-07-2011, 03:45 AM
sounds spot on to me the only thing I'd add is that life & death when viewed metaphysically cannot be separated
angel6m2000
06-07-2011, 03:51 AM
sounds spot on to me the only thing I'd add is that life & death when viewed metaphysically cannot be separated
How do you mean?
not human
06-07-2011, 04:01 AM
that the separation between the 2 is created in the mind because when we think we conceptualize in duallity ie good / evil ....pleasure / pain etc death is a part of life as much as life is a part of death all one process ...
angel6m2000
06-07-2011, 04:10 AM
ahh, so your saying that the physical being is one step, through "life" and "death". and this is the beginning and end of many steps. there really is no such thing as death, because our souls live on forever. its our minds trying to comprehend this that the words life and death come in. right?
angel6m... Your way of thinking about death may be different from most people, but not from those of us who are becoming aware of our true nature as spiritual beings. Welcome to the club!
Xan
psychoslice
06-07-2011, 04:26 AM
Your belief in death doesn't resonate with my thinking of death, but if it brings you comfort and you are not clinging to it for the actual comfort, then i think that's all that matters.
Okay, psychoslice, I'll bite. What is your thinking about death?
Xan
not human
06-07-2011, 04:48 AM
ahh, so your saying that the physical being is one step, through "life" and "death". and this is the beginning and end of many steps. there really is no such thing as death, because our souls live on forever. its our minds trying to comprehend this that the words life and death come in. right?
thats getting to the heart of what I am saying Angel but you are there anyway
psychoslice
06-07-2011, 04:54 AM
Okay, psychoslice, I'll bite. What is your thinking about death?
Xan
Well of course none of us know and we don't need to know, its all life and that's all there is, there is no one born and no one to die, yes there is this thing we call the body but that is also part of the wholeness of life, we eat, drink and a body is formed, there is life animating through this body, but the body is not the totality of what or who we truly are. there is no little soul hidden within the body that continues to another, there is nothing that we can learn that will make any difference to the next body that appears, all that we have accumulated within the mind is dissolved with the body, nothing continues on except what is within our gens. I think most like to believe in the after life just for comfort, we need to live NOW, because that's all you can ever do, to live NOW is in itself immortality.
Well of course none of us know and we don't need to know, its all life and that's all there is, there is no one born and no one to die, yes there is this thing we call the body but that is also part of the wholeness of life, we eat, drink and a body is formed, there is life animating through this body, but the body is not the totality of what or who we truly are. there is no little soul hidden within the body that continues to another, there is nothing that we can learn that will make any difference to the next body that appears, all that we have accumulated within the mind is dissolved with the body, nothing continues on except what is within our gens. I think most like to believe in the after life just for comfort, we need to live NOW, because that's all you can ever do, to live NOW is in itself immortality.
I disagree, psychoslice. No offense, but your comments "all that we have accumulated within the mind is dissolved with the body, nothing continues on except what is within our gens. I think most like to believe in the after life just for comfort, we need to live NOW, because that's all you can ever do, to live NOW is in itself immortality" seems atheistic to me; perhaps I'm misreading or not understanding your point?
angel6m2000
07-07-2011, 03:46 PM
I'm not trying to bash on your thoughts and opinions here, just trying to make sense of it, with my basic understanding and beliefs.
...there is no little soul hidden within the body that continues to another, there is nothing that we can learn that will make any difference to the next body that appears...
I have to disagree with you. There may be no physical evidence of a soul, but that doesn't mean it is not there. There is something unique about everyone and everything that makes us all so equal, every life form has the same energy level on this world in my opinion. Some can just communicate it better.
...nothing continues on except what is within our gens...
I agree with the concept that only our genes "live" on, because our souls never die. And also believe it is up to us in this generation to share our experiences and knowledge with the next generation so they can achieve a greater awareness and understanding of this life and other lives, whether it be in the dimension/realm or not.
...we need to live NOW, because that's all you can ever do, to live NOW is in itself immortality...
I completely agree with this because the now is where we will learn what we need to, in order to reach the Divine Light/Spirit. We are all here for a reason, there wouldn't be so many people put here on a coincidence.
Those are just my thoughts, trying to make sense of yours and understand where you are coming from.
Thank you, everyone, for your thoughts. :D
psychoslice: Well of course... its all life and that's all there is... yes there is this thing we call the body but that is also part of the wholeness of life, we eat, drink and a body is formed, there is life animating through this body, but the body is not the totality of what or who we truly are.
Here we agree.
none of us know and we don't need to know
Why would you assume that no one can or should know what lies after physical death when we already know so much more of our being and of life itself than we once did?
More expressions of pure formless essence can be known... our multidimensional soul and spirit.
there is no one born and no one to die, there is no little soul hidden within the body that continues to another
This is the belief system of no-selfism, which I consider a stage along the way in our awakening awareness. Others of us have made further discoveries... becoming aware in the pure multidimensional Being that is neither human form nor formlessness.
You are right, though... there is no little soul hidden in the body, but the body-mind is contained within the soul as its vehicle for interaction in this world. We usually become aware of it as our inner self, but that is only a gateway to further discoveries of all that we are.
there is nothing that we can learn that will make any difference to the next body that appears, all that we have accumulated within the mind is dissolved with the body, nothing continues on except what is within our gens.
All creation is evolving. Even subatomic particles learn. Nothing experienced is ever lost to the etheric realms. The subtle universe of soul and spirit is real and can be explored in consciousness.
I think most like to believe in the after life just for comfort
There is so much evidence now from NDE's and visitations from the deceased that to deny it is just not reasonable or realistic.
we need to live NOW, because that's all you can ever do, to live NOW is in itself immortality.
Here again we agree.
Robbie, I suspect you may be among those who cling to a certain level of enlightenment as final, but in my experience that holding on only blocks our further discoveries of the intricate expressive nature of reality.
Xan
its all life and that's all there is, there is no one born and no one to die
all that we have accumulated within the mind is dissolved with the body, nothing continues on except what is within our genes.
If no one dies, does this mean that no thing dies?
You say that the content of the mind dissolves. Does this mean that you feel that the mind dies?
If "nothing continues on except what is within our genes", then there is, in fact, death.
Everything that does not continue (i.e., everything but our genes) dies.
Isn't it splitting hairs to differentiate between permanent discontinuation and death. Isn't that essentially what death is- a permanent discontinuation.
If consciousness does not continue, then it dies, and death is thus very real.
Coming2
08-07-2011, 08:49 PM
Wow interesting topic!! I can understand what Slice is getting at and Life your point is a great counter to what he posted!!
I think it is wonderful Angel that you have such a positive outlook on death. It is always hard to lose the essence of someone in the physical body but truly that essence remains with us in our mind and heart. In my opinion, being able to let go of someone who has passed and finding joy for their continued growth spiritually is a true gift.
Coming2
08-07-2011, 08:49 PM
Wow interesting topic!! I can understand what Slice is getting at and Life your point is a great counter to what he posted!!
I think it is wonderful Angel that you have such a positive outlook on death. It is always hard to lose the essence of someone in the physical body but truly that essence remains with us in our mind and heart. In my opinion, being able to let go of someone who has passed and finding joy for their continued growth spiritually is a true gift.
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