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Old 24-12-2015, 09:55 PM
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I'd suggest the Vatican would be better suited for the role of False prophet. The Beast will almost certainly be Russia (currently represented by a Bear as it's national animal), aided by China (currently represented by a dragon as it's national animal).

Prophecy often says more than one thing at a time, and I believe something similar happens with the Babylone the prostitute. I believe it is referring to the spiritual destruction of greed in the world at the battle of Armageddon, but that it is also referring to an earlier battle between worldly Kingdoms. The prophecy says Babylon "sits" on the "red" Beast, but that the Beast eventually turns against the prostitute and destroys her, with the help of 10 kings, thereby gaining control of the world (Rev 17:16-17).

I suggest that Babylon the prostitute represents America (represented by an eagle as it's national animal).

American capitalism (the love of money) is currently "sitting on" world communism. That is, America has the upper hand for the moment. If you read read the description of Babylon from Revelation 18 you'll notice that nearly the entire chapter talks about materialism. Babylon is a "great city which sits as a queen and reigns over the nations of the earth". All the merchants, shipping captains and business men of the Earth were made rich by her materialism.

The pride. The materialism. In all of history I don't think there is a better fit than America for the description found in Rev 18. If America were the Beast and the Vatican Babylon, there would be no motive for America to destroy the catcholic Church. It simply would not make any sense either politically or economically.

However, if Russia is the Beast and America Babylon, there would be a huge motivation for Russia to destroy America. The United Nations security counsel current has 5 permanent members and 10 rotating members.

The 5 permanent members are Russin, China, USA, England, and France. These countries represent themselves by these animals, Bear, Dragon, Eagle, Lion, Rooster, respectively.

The ten rotating members are a collection 2nd and 3rd world countries which rotate in and out of the security counsel every few years.

If a Russia/China alliance, assisted by the 10 members of the rotating counsel, could destroy America, then England and France would be powerless to stop a take-over in the power vacuum left behind.

If you read Daniel 7:3-8 you'll find all the animals represented by the UN security counsel found in Daniel's description of the final world empire. He says the Eagle's wings were "plucked" and the lion was given the heart of a man (i.e. no longer a "Beast" or world empire" and the wings of the foul simply act as an appendage on the back of the Beast.

In that same passage he describes a Bear with three "ribs" in it's mouth and instructed to devour much flesh. He describes three horns being plucked up.

America "plucked" and neither England or France able to do anything about it afterwards.

The Revelation gives much the same description of this final world empire, using the same animal symbolism, except the eagle is missing. Revelation 13:2.

There's some other prophecy stuff in Jeremiah about God using a Bear to attack a rebellious nation over the North Pole; which is exactly what would happen if Russia were to launch a surprise nuclear strike at America. I'm not advocating panic or paranoia, but I do think a serious and rational approach to prophecy will show that there is a very real chance of that happening.

All of this prophecy about "beasts" and world powers are conspicuously similar to how world politics is shaping up today.


Here is truth-----(Rev 13) the 7 headed beast with 10 horns( 10 horns = 10 kingdoms--a place where kingdoms gather)= the one that was( league of nations) is not( death stroke--done away with after ww2) and yet is( death stroke got healed-united nations)--7 heads represent the 7 world powers of all time--4 listed in Daniel 7( all given the mark of a beast)--#5 = the roman empire--#6 = the British empire-- #7 = the two horned beast( eagle-lion)- cannot buy or sell= sanctions--makes fire( destruction) come down out of the heavens= bombs- missiles)-- the image of the beast= peace and security)---the bible teaches--whenever they are saying--peace and security--sudden destruction will be upon them.
Every kingdom( govt, armies, supporters)on earth will be mislead to stand in opposition to Gods king-Rev 16-Rev 19:17-19)
Gods kingdom is mankinds only remaining hope.
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Old 25-12-2015, 06:29 AM
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Learning what Jesus meant by being no part of this world is a wise path to pursue. Yes we all are in the world, but do not have to partake of the things that God dislikes.
Brutality is only found in the false religions.
Not one mortal can understand the deep things of God without being taught by the real teachers who belong to Jesus. Jesus started one single religion. 99% are false--one has truth.


Which religion did Jesus start ?
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Old 25-12-2015, 12:45 PM
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Which religion did Jesus start ?


The one that is no part of this world. that means---different from the others.
By learning and applying what Jesus really taught--it becomes clear.
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Old 25-12-2015, 12:59 PM
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In Roman Catholicism there are four ways of interpreting Rev.

Littoral - where Jesus will talk us through it
Prereterite - where there's almost no mystery
Poetic - think about it
and Symbolic - do we have to think it through?

Granted any day anything could happen, or that eventually the evidence would be conclusive. The Popes as the false prophet? Absolutely yes! I see logic in that.
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Old 26-12-2015, 09:44 AM
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The one that is no part of this world. that means---different from the others.
By learning and applying what Jesus really taught--it becomes clear.


What about people who have never heard of Jesus or know his teachings, are they doomed forever ?
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Old 26-12-2015, 12:42 PM
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What about people who have never heard of Jesus or know his teachings, are they doomed forever ?


Gods word teaches---This good news of the kingdom will be preached as a witness to all the nations, then the end will come.
It is being preached in every nation on earth.
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Old 26-12-2015, 02:36 PM
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Gods word teaches---This good news of the kingdom will be preached as a witness to all the nations, then the end will come.
It is being preached in every nation on earth.

I would disagree that Gods word is being preached everywhere on earth. There are plenty who have never heard of God or Jesus but they live a spiritual life in their own way, finding their own God.


The "Kingdom of God " is within not without so reading and believing the Gospels which are written by man is not the only road that leads to God.
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Old 26-12-2015, 03:07 PM
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I would disagree that Gods word is being preached everywhere on earth. There are plenty who have never heard of God or Jesus but they live a spiritual life in their own way, finding their own God.


The "Kingdom of God " is within not without so reading and believing the Gospels which are written by man is not the only road that leads to God.


Jesus taught---Enter through the narrow gate( a single path) for cramped is the road( single road) that leads off into life( eternal)- FEW will find it, for many have entered the broad and spacious path that leads to destruction( not eternal suffering)
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Old 26-12-2015, 03:36 PM
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Do any of you think we are now living in the last days? Curious One
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Old 26-12-2015, 05:08 PM
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Do any of you think we are now living in the last days? Curious One


We are at the end of the last days--Rev 13 has been going on for awhile now.
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