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Old 03-05-2013, 08:09 PM
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I am very lucky. In the town where I live there is a qualified medical Herbalist who has been in the same practice for 30 years. So if ever I needed any specialist advice I could go to him.
Then there's no worry involved and no researching (with a chance of getting anything wrong) Although I know a bit about herbal medicine I will go to him if needed. He's conventionally medically-trained so knows a lot about prescription drugs, and the do's and don't's of combining prescription/herbs.
Is there a medical herbalist in your area you could make an appointment with?
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Old 03-05-2013, 08:42 PM
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Thanks Tobi - it has crossed my mind to look into this (since I far favour the natural route) but I guess I can preempt what the GP would say (being a proponent of orthodox medicine). So what you're saying here is that there may be scope to combine herbalism with the medication (i.e. it wouldn't go against the conventions of taking prescribed medication?) and perhaps wean myself off of the tablets?
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Old 04-05-2013, 12:04 AM
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Possibly yes. As LPC said, his mother was helped by scaling down prescription medicines at the same time as using herbs, until the herbal medicine was found to work sufficiently.
BUT in my opinion it would be safest to consult a Herbalist and let them sort it out....unless you knew for sure what you were doing. Then you don't have to worry and can rely on their expertise (me being lazy again! LOL!)
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Old 04-05-2013, 09:53 AM
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Thanks Tobi - yes, I certainly wouldn't contemplate embarking on such an important matter without the help of a professional herbalist. I will look into this.
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Old 06-05-2013, 09:14 PM
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Hi Amy,

high bp is a contraindication for massage and doctors advice should be sought.

The reason for this is that high bp is a symptom of a range of different underlying conditions. So if the high bp is caused solely by stress, then regular massage can help to bring it down. I guess this is where kylie has got the idea from. However, if the high bp is caused by certain heart conditions or blood clots, then massage has the potential to cause harm.

Hence why the advice of a doctor should be sought. Any good therapist should know this and practise it.
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Old 06-05-2013, 09:17 PM
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Thanks Meadows for clarifying the reasons why there appears to be mixed messages with hpb and massage. I posted this thread once I was told that it was not advisable to have massage with hpb but further investigation (with manual lymph drainage masseurs) revealed it would probably be OK if GP permits. So I guess we have now got this topic covered!
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Old 06-05-2013, 09:28 PM
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For most people you also would benefit from lowering sodium intake and upping potassium intake to the point of having about 4700 mg of potassium or more and 1500 mg of sodium per day or less. This applies to sodium and potassium chloride, not to things like sodium bicarbonate (such as baking soda). Too much sugar is also very bad. Saturated fats are also bad. And as pretty much always, a BMI of under 25 and a good amount of exercise are very helpful. Resistance training such as lifting weights helps to make the blood vessels larger which will reduce the blood pressure as well as they can carry more blood with less pressure.

I wouldn't advise deep tissue massage, but a good relaxing massage should be fine.
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Old 06-05-2013, 09:50 PM
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I agree with Mayflow, a gentle massage is very therapeutic, and would be very good for anyone with HBP, I would use a nice lavender oil, with some soft music.
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Old 28-05-2013, 05:11 AM
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I have blood pressure issues, and massage hasn't had any negative effect...just because its written on google doesn't mean its factual.....there is so much contradictory information for the same topics on google,(especially medical type information) one couldnt rely on it but only use it as a tool.....

i trust my therapists to be educated in what they're doing otherwise they wouldn't have the certificates that they have after so much education in their chosen field(well hopefully they can get it right most of the time)...

.And another thing, doctors don't always 'know'the answers for all, and will tell you to go ahead with stuff, which could be quite detrimental to you......they're only as good as what they're trained in or can be bothered with......Ive had some bad advice from doctors in the past ( e.g., my GP told me a skin irritation was nothing to worry about, so i had it checked by another doctor who did a biopsy, it was skin cancer and i was lucky to have had the biopsy as it actually got all of the cancer).....or even, once reaching menopause, not cared about because apparently, menopausal aging women aren't worth the effort......even from female doctors......

Its a dicey thing choosing and trusting doctors or massage therapists even physiotherapists ( once, my physio' made me worse after a treatment that was supposed to help) etc can all get it wrong at times......thats the nature of human beings, we're not all infallible, even with 'you beaut'....degrees from universities etc......humans make mistakes.........
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Old 28-05-2013, 09:31 AM
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Dragonfly - did you read Meadows post #15?

Also I started this thread, not because I googled it, but because I was told that massage was/could be contraindicative for high blood pressure by a massage therapist at a health clinic. This was then confirmed by my visiting several sites on google, i.e. none contradicted this finding.
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