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Old 12-10-2010, 04:04 AM
mahakali
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what is kinesiology?

I figured I would be the first to post in this section.

posted from http://www.gettingthru.org/sk.htm
"Kinesiology (muscle testing) can detect the energetic blockages that you are ready to release as you progress in your evolutionary process. SK adds powerful healing techniques to clear these imbalances quickly and easily by accessing the power of the soul's energy.

In addition to providing deep and lasting healings, this approach also connects you with your soul's wisdom, which can also bring higher understanding of any issue you choose to address.

One of the benefits of these techniques is that they are quick and non-invasive. You do not generally have to know the source of a problem or relive a traumatic experience for SK (Spiritual Kinesiology) to be effective.

Kinesiology refers to the use of muscle testing to access information from the unconscious mind and the body’s innate intelligence. Many people consider it to be the most advanced diagnostic healing tool available today. It works by testing how the strength of a muscle is affected by focusing on a stimulus or a part of the body and has a multitude of applications. You can use it to test how the body is affected by different substances, environmental factors, and verbal statements."
So how does this work? can anyone explain any further?
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Old 12-10-2010, 06:03 PM
LightFilledHeart
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I confess that although I've had the technique applied by various holistic health practitioners, I don't have a whole lot of knowledge on the subject.

I've been told that it only measures the benefit of whatever you are testing for (a remedy, nutrient, relationship, whatever!) IN THAT GIVEN MOMENT! They tell me if you test again an hour later, you might get a very different answer. That being the case, how is this method beneficial??

Please, any and all who have understanding of how this modality works, feel free to enlighten me! I just don't know enough about it. I will dowse for answers to similar questions as others use muscle testing for, but I recognize there is room for error in THAT method also!
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Old 12-10-2010, 07:29 PM
mahakali
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How would you get certified for this sort of thing?
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Old 17-10-2010, 09:30 AM
JEN
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Hi everyone
I live in Australia so the terms and names may be different. I trained in the modality of kinesiology and kinergetics. "Touch for Health" was the course that is undertaken to learn basic kinesiology. Kinergetics utilizes muscle testing but introduces energetic healing (reiki, theta energy) for balancing. Both modalities have specialisation courses as well. I believe practitions of both are now located world wide.

The main premise is that the body has an intelligence of its own, and it reaches outside of the body. It bypasses your conscious brain. You can muscle test for anything you can think of. For instance, you might love bread, broccolli, whatever, but when you muscle test whether the body "likes" it, the muscle will go weak. You have developed an allergy or sensitivity to that food or food group. You can muscle test for where a particular fear or "phobia" came from through age recgression (and of course, also get into past lives, or genetic famial cellular memories, etc). Quite often, just the knowledge coming forth is a healing in itself, but you do energetically balance chakras, organs and glands, often utilising crystals, essential oils etc. It is quite fascinating.

I then went on to learn Theta Healing. Now this IS amazing. Almost instantaneous. Utilising muscle testing, but then working with the creator.

Hope this helps
JEN
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Old 17-10-2010, 09:34 AM
JEN
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Sorry, I forgot to add that if you want to find out more about courses etc., there should be a Kinesiology Association in your country, listing accredited practitioners.
JEN
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Old 17-10-2010, 03:11 PM
LightFilledHeart
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JEN
The main premise is that the body has an intelligence of its own, and it reaches outside of the body. It bypasses your conscious brain. You can muscle test for anything you can think of. For instance, you might love bread, broccolli, whatever, but when you muscle test whether the body "likes" it, the muscle will go weak. You have developed an allergy or sensitivity to that food or food group. You can muscle test for where a particular fear or "phobia" came from through age recgression (and of course, also get into past lives, or genetic famial cellular memories, etc). Quite often, just the knowledge coming forth is a healing in itself, but you do energetically balance chakras, organs and glands, often utilising crystals, essential oils etc. It is quite fascinating.


Hope this helps
JEN

Hi JEN! Nice to meet you

My question regarding this practice revolves around the lack of standardization. I recognize the method is taught and adhered to... I don't mean that... but how does the practitioner know he/she is exerting the exact amount of force each time in the context of testing, and the mind being a powerful thing, is it not possible said practitioner might have a bias as to what result is expected and unconsciously exert more or less force in order to achieve that result?? Also, I've been told that when you muscle test, the results are true IN THAT PRECISE MOMENT and that they might NOT be an hour later. That the body's response fluctuates based on all sorts of circumstances. Can you shed some light on these questions? And please understand that this is by NO MEANS meant to be an attack on the modality ..far from it! I truly want to understand. Thank you
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Old 18-10-2010, 06:47 AM
JEN
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how does the practitioner know he/she is exerting the exact amount of force each time in the context of testing, and the mind being a powerful thing, is it not possible said practitioner might have a bias as to what result is expected and unconsciously exert more or less force in order to achieve that result?? Also, I've been told that when you muscle test, the results are true IN THAT PRECISE MOMENT and that they might NOT be an hour later. That the body's response fluctuates based on all sorts of circumstances

Hi Lightfilledheart
You raise some interesting questions, that need to be kept top of mind. Yes the mind is a powerful tool, and I know if I am the one having the session DONE to me, I always ask the practitioner to ask silent questions, so that I am not able to influence the answer. We have a large amount of scan lists which you run your fingers down - the muscle responds when you point to something of interest. The body intelligence is both within and outside itself - I often think it is the soul talking to you...... "clear this stuff please". You can work with a locked and then an unlocked muscle to check, if you are in doubt.(the locked muscle unlocks, while the unlocked muscle actually locks itself) You actually dont exert hardly any pressure on the arm, except the pressure of 1 or 2 fingers - it simply unlocks and falls. Some clients can tell when you are getting to an important point, because they can feel their arm weakening. Dehydration and rehydration play an important role in accurate muscle testing, as well. AND there are ways in which to check if there are sabourtages in place, to lead you down the garden path, or when you cant get a response.

About the hour after question. Well I cant say I have ever put it to the test. But let it suffice to say that often the body just wants to make you aware of something..... after it has done that, it is no longer an issue, which would require a response. If it was sensitivity testing only, I am not sure you wouldnt get the same response, unless of course you had already done some energetic work and realignments. So, cant really answer that one with a yes or no, sorry. All I might suggest (with tongue in cheek) is that if you want precise accuracy in your work, dont work with human beings or the gods!!! Like most other modalities, it is a tool to allow the client (and yourself) to become aware of emotions, patterns, health related issues, etc. You can "heal" all you like, but if the client is not prepared to look at their "wounds" or indeed to heal them, you aint got a chance. You can "fix up" something one day, and they have recreated it the next, because the wound itself is "currency" in their power structures.

Hope that answered your question. If not, let me know. I can be a little obtuse from time to time!! I am curious, why are you interested?

Have a great day. JEN




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Old 18-10-2010, 06:59 AM
JEN
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Just a thought, LFH (I'm aussie - we love to shorten names!!). You know ANYONE can muscle test..... absolutely anyone. Get hold of a friend, and ask them to stand and hold their arm out straight at the elbow. There is a point (usually about 46 degrees from the body, that the arm will automatically lock in place naturally) with no exertion needed by that person. You then place your 2 fingers on their wrist and ask for permission to test.... the muscle should unlock, and then lock again. It is subtle. The tried and true way is to get a locked muscle and then bring a bag of sugar (always reacts as processed sugar doesnt suit anybody). Just give it a go. If you can get a muscle to "talk" to you, ask it for a "yes" and then a "no" and play away. Its fun. JEN
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Old 18-10-2010, 03:25 PM
LightFilledHeart
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Hi JEN,


thanks so much for taking the time to answer my query


You raise some interesting questions, that need to be kept top of mind. Yes the mind is a powerful tool, and I know if I am the one having the session DONE to me, I always ask the practitioner to ask silent questions, so that I am not able to influence the answer.


That addresses how you avoid influencing the response yourself, but could not the tester have expectations or preconceived beliefs regarding the condition as well which might unconsciously influence how much pressure he/she exerts?


You actually dont exert hardly any pressure on the arm, except the pressure of 1 or 2 fingers


Yes, I've had the procedure done, and I know only one or two fingers are used, but there can be a wide variance of how much pressure is exerted, even so.


it simply unlocks and falls. Some clients can tell when you are getting to an important point, because they can feel their arm weakening. Dehydration and rehydration play an important role in accurate muscle testing, as well.


That I do know... I've actually been told by the practitioner to go drink water and come back in a half hour...!


AND there are ways in which to check if there are sabourtages in place, to lead you down the garden path, or when you cant get a response. About the hour after question. Well I cant say I have ever put it to the test. But let it suffice to say that often the body just wants to make you aware of something..... after it has done that, it is no longer an issue, which would require a response.


Yes, I see what you're saying. That makes sense.


If it was sensitivity testing only, I am not sure you wouldnt get the same response, unless of course you had already done some energetic work and realignments. So, cant really answer that one with a yes or no, sorry.


It's okay... what you gave was helpful


All I might suggest (with tongue in cheek) is that if you want precise accuracy in your work, dont work with human beings or the gods!!! Like most other modalities, it is a tool to allow the client (and yourself) to become aware of emotions, patterns, health related issues, etc. You can "heal" all you like, but if the client is not prepared to look at their "wounds" or indeed to heal them, you aint got a chance. You can "fix up" something one day, and they have recreated it the next, because the wound itself is "currency" in their power structures.


Yes indeed! But if we are being asked to put our faith in these various modalities, they have to have credability to some degree. It's not that one necessarily expects it to work every time for every person, but the method or system at least has to make sense in terms of how it does and can work, no?


Hope that answered your question. If not, let me know. I can be a little obtuse from time to time!! I am curious, why are you interested?


My interest lies in curiosity about a modality I don't fully understand. In the interest of learning new things, I'm curious as to how it works, why it works, if it works. I'm a metaphysician of long standing, so holistic healing methods that work energetically with the spirit are by their very nature interesting to me, not to mention having had many of them practiced on me...some with more success than others. The only healing modality I practice and am well-informed on is Reiki. I have heard the pros and cons of muscle testing discussed at various times with other metaphsycians and have posed my questions but no one seemed to be able to provide an answer.

You've given me lots to chew on... thank you!


Have a great day. JEN


You too!! And thanks again




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Old 20-10-2010, 08:39 AM
JEN
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You are more than welcome. Enjoy your journey.... and remember, angels can fly because they take themselves lightly!! JEN
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