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Old 06-08-2012, 08:52 PM
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Commercial/former military pilot in Kansas City claims to have seen UFO. Video posted August 1, 2012.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DinmTg0oNVA
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Old 25-08-2012, 12:09 AM
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Courtesy of Sheilaaliens of Youtube fame, from Dos Palos California, KMPH news story. A really strange looking UFO, good footage as well with witness's testimony. Comes with the obligatory X-Files music in the background. Uploaded August 22nd.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JI4yQn-1zbQ
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Old 27-08-2012, 07:15 AM
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ok this one is downright shocking. A UFO blimp, very clearly hovering in broad daylight. It almost doesn't seem legit, yet it is on ABC news, so why would such a mainstream news station run something without checking their sources? Out of Salt Lake City, uploaded August 20, pretty short, 30 second or so news clip. It disappeared apparently! Would have liked to seen that on the footage.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYsnBP-L16M&feature=player_embedded
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Old 31-08-2012, 09:16 AM
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Bit of a rarity, an actual feature story on t.v. news, from Jackson Missouri, August 3rd, 2012. Footage of recent sighting and witness statements and also gives a history of an alien/ufo story from the area back in 1941. Includes alien sketch from alleged witness, and UFO's reportedly shooting lights.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_5c_xtadyE
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Old 03-09-2012, 11:55 PM
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Journalist Leslie Kean, author of probably one of the most credible books on UFO's and the legitimacy of their existence based on government, Military and aviation expert testimony, on the Stephen Colbert show.

From a couple years ago.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xejzq6_leslie-kean_news

and here she is from an interview on RT news

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xeg...-on-the-r_tech
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Old 09-09-2012, 01:00 AM
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Retired air force officers testify that ufo's allegedly disarmed nuclear weapons. Phone interviews with UFO researcher and one of the air force officers. Uploaded June 5th, from Fox news, news anchor sounds somewhat condescending to both men, and he admits his skepticism at the end of the clip.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcSD_L-HDQY

Australian news cast from 2010. News casters joke around a bit, then (with the obligatory X-Files music) a news piece with an interview and footage of a sighting from a man down unda. (Sorry, i love Aussie accents. It is my favorite accent in the world actually) anyways, here it is. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFh0Z3-Ykfo

Montage of different t.v. news stories relating to ufo's. Courtesy of youtube member UFOShock1. Quite a bit or various compelling footage, from as far back as 2008. Haunting ambient music caries and accompanies the news stories in the background at a low level, which i thought was a nice touch.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVcvDiuR75A
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Old 13-09-2012, 02:27 AM
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I'm going to shift gears a bit in this thread and share a selection from John Keel's book 'Operation Trojan Horse' in which he talks about and quotes from news stories a flap of ghost airplanes that occurred in Norway around the 1933-34 time period. From pages 117 - 119.


'1 . Sunday, December 3 1 , 1933 . Mr. Olof Hedlund, "a reliable man
with a good reputation, " saw "a large gray airplane, bigger than any
Anny plane" circle the Sorsele railway station three times at 3 :45 A . M .
"It was single-winged and enclosed, like a passenger plane, and was
equipped with pontoons or some sort of skis . . . No marks or insignia were
visible. " (It was a night of the full moon. Clear skies.) "The engine
stopped during the turns over the village. "

2 . Wednesday, January 10, 1934. At 6 P.M. people in Tarna saw a
brilliant object at an altitude of 1 ,000 feet. Turned and headed toward
Arjeplog . Fifteen minutes later people in Arjeplog heard airplane engines
and left their homes to watch it pass.Then, at Rortrask, northeast Norsjo, the plane appeared, and witnesses "observed the engine stop three times as it passed directly over them . . . The machine was flying so low that the whole forest was bathed in its light. "

3 . Wednesday , January 10, 1934. Trondheim, Norway . "Two landings
of the ghost fliers were reported from northern Norway Wednesday
evening . One machine landed near the island of Gjeslingen, outside
Rorvik, and the other at a place called Kvaloj in the area Namndal . The
report from Gjeslingen says that the people there saw a great beam of light and heard the sound of a strong engine. The machine landed and remained on the water quietly for an hour and a half. Its light went out after it landed. "A Norwegian cruiser, the Eagle, was sent to the area, but the plane was gone when it arrived.

4. Sunday , January 2 1 , 1934. "At 6 P . M . Sunday evening a crowd
of people in Bengtsforsen, Jamtland, saw a very bright light in the sky . It
was the size of a half-moon and traveled very fast. The roar of an engine
was heard during the sighting . In Indal , west of Bengtsforsen, a light appeared after 6 P . M . A large crowd heard it and watched as the light circled the area for ten minutes before vanishing in the west.
To the dismay of the Swedish military authorities, these planes chose
to circle railways and forts (particularly the fort at Boden) and other
strategic areas . Many of the sightings were of lights only, often described
as blinding , and the old familiar "searchlight" was described in one
account after another.

When a large gray airplane chose to circle low over the Norwegian
freighter Tordenskiold outside of Tromso, Norway, on Tuesday, January
23, 1934, it projected a blinding beam of light onto the ship's deck
"lighting it up like daylight. " Captain Sigvard Olsen said the pilot was
visible in the illuminated cabin and that he wore a hood and big eyeglasses
or goggles.

The known part of the flap really began in earnest on Saturday,
January 6, with many simultaneous sightings throughout Sweden. There
were other peaks on Monday, January 8; Wednesday, January 10;
Saturday , January 20; Sunday, January 2 1 ; Tuesday , January 23 ; Thursday, January 25 ; Tuesday , February 6; and Sunday, February 1 1 .
Published reports in February declined sharply as the military authorities
moved into the flap areas and began in-depth investigations. These
1 1 8 / Operation Trojan Horse investigations were apparently most thorough, for the Swedish, Finnish and Norwegian defense departments took a very dim view of the whole situation. Their air territories were being invaded.

From the sighting data it is apparent that many air planes were involved, not just one or two. Most of these planes were larger than ordinary military planes, and they were able to operate in foul weather over treacherous mountainous territory. Such an operation called for well-equipped bases staffed with mechanics and linked to supply lines to provide the necessary fuel, spareparts and logistical needs. Despite a thorough search by the armed forces of three countries, no such bases were ever discovered. Aircraft carriers were still being developed, and the ones then available could handle only a few small biplanes. In 1 942, the United States modified the carrier Hornet to transport General Doolittle's twinengined B-25s to the coast of Japan, where they launched their raid against Tokyo. But the B-25s could not land again on the carrier and had to fly on to China.

Hitler had just come into power in 1933 , and the Luftwaffe did not
yet exist. The Soviet Union did not have the planes or, more important,
the motivation for such a senseless series of maneuvers over Scandinavia.
Besides, the risks of an international incident were tremendous. If one of
these planes had crashed and had been found to be the property of any
foreign power, the overflights would certainly have been regarded as an
act of war.

For some peculiar reason, the New York Times suggested that Japan
was the culprit. But none of the Scandinavian newspapers even mentioned
Japan in connection with the ghost fliers. Japan was having trouble with
China at that time and would have had neither the capability nor the
motivation for the operation.

For a time early in the flap, the Swedish newspapers toyed with theories about liquor smugglers flying around the North. But the official
investigations completely ruled out the smuggler theory. As with the waves of 1 896-97 and 1 909, the 1 934 flap featured random low-level flights of recognizable objects and hundreds of flights of high-altitude lights carrying out seemingly intelligent maneuvers. The mystery airplanes were the "hard" objects used to provide a frame of reference for the more numerous "soft" objects being deployed throughout the northern latitudes. Witnesses saw and reported defmite airplanes carrying red, green and white lights. When brilliant red, green and white lights were seen at higher altitudes, it was assumed that they were attached to ghost fliers hidden by distance.

The ghost fliers were capable of astounding maneuvers. The airplanes
could cut their engines at low altitudes, sometimes only 100 feet or so in
the air, and circle not once but three or four times without power. Try this
in a conventional airplane, and you'll end up in a box.
On April 30, 1934, Major General Reutersward, commanding general
of upper Norrland, Sweden, issued the following statement to the
press:

"Comparison of these reports shows that there can be no doubt about
illegal air traffic over our secret military areas. There are many reports
from reliable people which describe close observations of the enigmatic
fliers . And in every case the same remark has been noted: No insignias
or identifying marks were visible on the machine . . . . It is impossible to
explain away the whole thing as imagination. The question is: Who are
they? And why have they been invading our air territory?
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Old 13-09-2012, 02:46 AM
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I am going to add what i think is a good valid point that Keel makes later in the same chapter before discussing phantom helicopters. Here's the quote.

"The thousands of sightings of phantom dirigibles and mysterious
airplanes from 1 896 to 1 938 provide us with a substantial body of
evidence which indicates that the phenomenon is actually flexible and that
it tailors itself to adopt acceptable forms for the time periods in which it
operates. All of this raises a very sticky question for the believers. Did all
of these things really exist? Or were all of these thousands of reports
merely examples of mass hysteria, journalistic jokes and misinterpretations
of some natural phenomenon?

You can't have both. Either a very large percentage of all these
reports are honest and valid-or they are all pure poppycock.
If I were writing a book on, say, the Civil War, I would go to these
very same sources-old newspapers, historical records, letters of the
actual participants-and I would produce a book that would be accepted
by scholars and historians with little or no questions asked. But flying
saucers have been dragged down by the amateur theorists and thrown into
disrepute by the believers in extraterrestrial visitants. Their efforts have
produced skeptics who have found the obvious flaws in the beliefs and
have therefore decided that all UFO data are equally invalid.
If a farmer of the 1860s fought in the Civil War and left behind a
packet of scrawled letters describing his experiences, historians would
pounce on those letters and quote them over and over again in scholarly
tomes. But if this same farmer saw an unusual object in the skies over
California in 1 875 and reported it to the local newspaper in the form of a
letter, that printed letter would become a source of controversy today.
" - [Fr. 'Operation Trojan horse, p. 123]
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Old 13-09-2012, 11:54 PM
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Here is something from the annals of t.v. history, Walter Kronkite news special from 1966 entitled; 'UFO's; Friend, Foe or Fantasy'. Part 1 is here--->http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAdDbuPu-3Y&feature=channel&list=UL & part II ---> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDWAT9S44d8

As an aside, the IBM commercial espousing the virtues of their fancy new computer is an interesting thing to watch.

It's getting lonely in here heheh, hello? Anybody? *tumbleweed rolls by*

Hello?... ello... llo... wow the echo really reverberates well in here.

Anyhoo, Enjoy. T.V. from a different time. Old school lovable classic old guys. Things were simpler then. An nickle was a nickle and people looked a person in the eye. Your neighbour Betty would drop by for tea, and she knew how to bake an apple pie from scratch. They don't make pies or apples or friendly neighbours like Betty as much anymore. Sigh.

*Deusdrum takes a mournful swig from his flask and kicks the tumbleweed*
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Old 14-09-2012, 12:02 AM
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Hey Deusdrum - I read your thread. Guess people don't find much UFO in the news i.e. media so can't/don't contribute....doesn't mean they don't read your posts though. A quick look at the UFO thread index shows me 569 have read this thread....feel better now? I guess most people are already converted that read here hence no debate?

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