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Old 01-03-2012, 02:45 AM
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Those of my loved ones who died, despite being elderly and ill at the time, all seemed to appear to be young, fit, beautiful (to me, anyway, but I'm biased because I love them), healthy and looking just like they did in their prime.

I had an uncle I adored, who was born with cerebral palsy; he couldn't walk, talk, feed himself, dress himself or anything at all and was heavily dependant upon my grandparents for daily care.

Then I saw him in a vivid dream about a year after he died and exclaimed, "Uncle Billy! You're alive! You can talk and walk!" to which he replied, with so much love in his words, "Of course, my dear. There are no infirmities or illnesses where I am now."

He, too, looked young and so beautiful to me, vital and healthy, as he would have looked when he was perhaps in his 20's, though he died in his 40's.

Interesting subject though :)

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Old 01-03-2012, 03:24 AM
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Those of my loved ones who died, despite being elderly and ill at the time, all seemed to appear to be young, fit, beautiful (to me, anyway, but I'm biased because I love them), healthy and looking just like they did in their prime.

I had an uncle I adored, who was born with cerebral palsy; he couldn't walk, talk, feed himself, dress himself or anything at all and was heavily dependant upon my grandparents for daily care.

Then I saw him in a vivid dream about a year after he died and exclaimed, "Uncle Billy! You're alive! You can talk and walk!" to which he replied, with so much love in his words, "Of course, my dear. There are no infirmities or illnesses where I am now."

He, too, looked young and so beautiful to me, vital and healthy, as he would have looked when he was perhaps in his 20's, though he died in his 40's.

Interesting subject though :)

MorningMist

nice account - thanks

Such details are typical of many reports of loved ones looking young, fit and well.

Along with the comfort that the message of survival can bring to the bereaved it's a liberating thought that their loved ones will also be free of any ailments they suffered during their physical lives.

And maybe a comfort for those who are infirm and approaching the end of their physical lives.
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Old 01-03-2012, 03:36 AM
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The two are pretty much the same for me whether they have bodies to return to or not. The only difference that i can see is their connection (or disconnection) to the physical world. Thanks for verifying, forgot to mention it.

To an observer it appears that in the Astral there is little difference in appearance between residents and incarnate Astral travellers. Would you agree?

But where discarnates have the special opportunity to represent themselves to their still incarnate loved ones (eg via mediumship), they may well choose an appearance altogether different from their 'default' one; the latter appearance perhaps being far less important ordinarily in their 'day-to-day' lives.
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Old 01-03-2012, 03:37 AM
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Do you know that just getting folk to understand
that life continues beyond corporeal death can be a big-enough step?
And your point would be....?
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Old 01-03-2012, 03:47 AM
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Originally Posted by mac
Do you know that just getting folk to understand that life continues beyond corporeal death can be a big-enough step?


I couldn't agree with you more, on that one. Had so many arguments with my father about it when I was a kid, so it was kinda nice to see him appear before me 6 weeks after he died, looking so surprised that I could possibly have been right lol
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Old 01-03-2012, 04:13 AM
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And your point would be....?

I'm a simple-minded guy whose aim is mostly to help folk understand issues which, for many, are daunting and even frightening.

My point is that just getting folk to understand the fundamentals is hard enough without going into issues related to: "But, my goal is not to relate so much to the human experience eventually...not at all...nor the 3rd dimension.
There is so much more than appearing on the Other Side in a human state...
there are much higher Celestial Spheres - tho we retain who we are, so to speak."

I'm saying....
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Old 01-03-2012, 04:17 AM
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Originally Posted by mac
Do you know that just getting folk to understand that life continues beyond corporeal death can be a big-enough step?


I couldn't agree with you more, on that one. Had so many arguments with my father about it when I was a kid, so it was kinda nice to see him appear before me 6 weeks after he died, looking so surprised that I could possibly have been right lol

My big sadness is that I am unable to reassure my mother about what she'll find when she passes over....
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Old 01-03-2012, 04:58 AM
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I'm a simple-minded guy whose aim is mostly to help folk understand issues which, for many, are daunting and even frightening.

My point is that just getting folk to understand the fundamentals is hard enough without going into issues related to:
"But, my goal is not to relate so much to the human experience eventually...not at all...nor the 3rd dimension.
There is so much more than appearing on the Other Side in a human state...
there are much higher Celestial Spheres - tho we retain who we are, so to speak."

I'm saying....
Good, then you post to the folk you'd like to reach.
And I will post to the folk I'd like to reach.
Works for me.

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Through delusion you are perceiving yourself as a bundle of flesh and bones...
Meditate unceasingly, that you quickly behold yourself as the Infinite Essence"

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Old 01-03-2012, 07:27 AM
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To an observer it appears that in the Astral there is little difference in appearance between residents and incarnate Astral travellers. Would you agree?

I agree mostly.

But I do notice that some have far more to them than incarnates simply because a lot of the soul of incarnates resides within the body for protection (while the rest of them can go wherever) and also some aspects of incarnates cannot exist/be seen in certain "places" or vibratory frequencies, while those aspects of the residents can.
It's more to do with the limitations attached to being tied to a physical body/the physical existence than the individuals themselves really.
So darn hard to explain so hopefully that makes some sense.

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But where discarnates have the special opportunity to represent themselves to their still incarnate loved ones (eg via mediumship), they may well choose an appearance altogether different from their 'default' one; the latter appearance perhaps being far less important ordinarily in their 'day-to-day' lives.

*nods* Maybe for the convenience of it too. Making a good impression and such.
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Old 01-03-2012, 02:11 PM
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Good, then you post to the folk you'd like to reach.
And I will post to the folk I'd like to reach.
Works for me.


quite......
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