Enlightenment

Originally Posted by Elijah

I don't think most do, awaken straight away that is.
I think most take it on board intellectually, awakening (apparently) arising later or not.

Yes personally have to solve my feelings one by one.. what is this, why is that etc. etc. and perform self-forgiveness. It is real hard work.

3dnow

Are you contending that dropping the perception of individuality is automatic enlightenment?

It might be useful for you to precisely define what you are calling enlightenment so we can understand what you mean by this term.

As you noted, '... I came here to help you.' further explaination of the above 2 things would be very useful in understanding what you are trying to say.

me too 3Dnow... one by one...

Originally Posted by Enlightened

I'm having to go out right now, i'll get back to this tomorrow. Feel free to e-mail me on [email protected] if you want to crack this one on one.

I'm down for whatever..

I've got high hopes for Free Bird, the real desire to want to crack this will push you to look. Good stuff.

Whoop woop Someone has hope for me at last!

I shall ponder this further

[sound]

Originally Posted by Enlightened

Have you ever questioned the notion that there is no 'you'? There's no central CPU, no one in control?

The notion that who you believe yourself to be is a complete fantasy, a phantom?

Essentially, a collection of mind made thought patterns and emotions that is an illusion. An illusion that you've never questioned because no one ever told you to.

Take a look inside now. Can you locate you?

Hi enlightened ... a warm welcome to the community :)

Your mantra seems familiar ... perhaps you are a member of Ruthless Truth by chance yeah?

Thanks Sound, yes I am an active member of RT.

I'm very glad of the interest this has sparked, and I appreciate your responses. I'd be very happy to work with anyone willing to work through this with me.

Obviously I would like to keep this in the open forum, but I feel it could get difficult to answer each question with the full attention they deserve.

If you're really willing to go through the gate, then use the e-mail I provided earlier. I've nothing to hide, and will still post here, but I think one-on-one is better for us both.

Hope to hear from you.

Originally Posted by mattie

Are you contending that dropping the perception of individuality is automatic enlightenment?

It might be useful for you to precisely define what you are calling enlightenment so we can understand what you mean by this term.

As you noted, '... I came here to help you.' further explaination of the above 2 things would be very useful in understanding what you are trying to say.

I was wondering why this person didn't answer you question the first time...

All I can say is that I am highly skeptical of individuals who say only they can show me truth and/or salvation.

[quote=spiritmonk]I was wondering why this person didn't answer you question the first time.../QUOTE]

I posted it again as I was interested in hearing their explaination of the things they briefly touched on. Sort of difficult to tell exactly what was meant.

Originally Posted by Enlightened

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Obviously I would like to keep this in the open forum, but I feel it could get difficult to answer each question with the full attention they deserve.

This isn’t obvious at all.

The questions that are asked are likely of interest to others & would eliminate the need for you to answer the same question multiple times if everyone emailed.

1) Are you contending that dropping the perception of individuality is automatic enlightenment?

2) What do you see as enlightenment? This explanation can be useful so we can understand what you mean by this term.

More information on these is necessary to be able to give the initial statement you made any consideration. The admittedly bold statement, ' I have the key to enlightenment.' was rather brief.

Originally Posted by Enlightened

If you're really willing to go through the gate, then use the e-mail I provided earlier. ... I think one-on-one is better for us both.

I’m pondering why a ‘one-on-one’ would be more beneficial. How is it determined this would be better for others?

[quote=mattie]

Originally Posted by spiritmonk

I was wondering why this person didn't answer you question the first time.../QUOTE]

I posted it again as I was interested in hearing their explaination of the things they briefly touched on. Sort of difficult to tell exactly what was meant.

No, I understand and it is a great question. There is no framework for the discussion and you attempted to set it, and I find the lack of a response bothering... which makes me think the conversation isn't a genuine one.

With Love,
Spirit Monk