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Old 15-10-2014, 09:31 PM
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Well technically the guy that rules doesn't have to be loving. For all we know he is psychopathic and upon death will makes feel pain and horror. I have however come to terms with death as of right now that is. I remember feeling the lowest ever when I believed that Death brought the end of all things and I'd be abyss of nothingness(positive) for all eternity.

The NDE stories kinda make me cringed, with how much religious figures like Jesus and St Paul being in them. I'd feel much better with a netural figure appearing to me after I die and not Jesus or some other religious figure. But that's just me.

God could be a psychopath but there's so many reasons why logically that can't make sense.

You haven't been reading the right NDE's then :) Most people see religious figures like Jesus because that's who they were exposed to as a child. Christianity is very well known.

But there are many other NDE's which are more neutral and which involve experiences with family and other beings and even extraterrestrial species. When you die if you don't want to see Jesus then you won't, unless it's needed for a specific reason. When I had my NDE-like experience and saw 'the Light' I experienced it as a Father God because that is what I needed for healing the religious patriarchal and narcissistic fatherly abuse which had been done to me. After my experience I was very confused and I couldn't accept it for a long time. But now I know I needed it for the sake of healing.

When I die I know I won't experience religious figures because I don't believe in that stuff and now there is no need to. Instead I'll maybe visit my mother first (because she likely will have died before me) and then go back to the realm I belong where my friends (soulgroup) are waiting for me.

Funnily enough though I feel like I know Jesus and might see him at some point. But again that could be because I know his presence from my mother's Christianity.
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Old 26-10-2014, 01:44 AM
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Glad to say my NDE was free of any so called religious figure! I'm looking forward to returning Home!
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Old 26-10-2014, 02:07 AM
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I think this life scares me way more than the Afterlife!
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Old 26-10-2014, 02:15 AM
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Glad to say my NDE was free of any so called religious figure! I'm looking forward to returning Home!

I once fell unconsciousness and in a blink was back on to myself. But right before that happen, it really felt like I was being born again. Everyone around me and everything near me looked super new. It was only for a few seconds bu t I actually got excited thinking I reincarnated right then and there. Overthinking it though it did made me feel there wasn't a god and no afterlife just pop your right into the next life.
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Old 26-10-2014, 03:56 AM
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In my NDE I never met anyone else, and yet I never felt alone. Near the end of my NDE I was spoken to telepathically, but I never saw who it was!

When I do get Home I'll not be wanting to return to this particular world because its run by madmen!

Maybe this is the naughty planet and were all serving some kind of karmic prison sentence!
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Old 26-10-2014, 04:41 AM
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I agree with Miss Hepburn, if existence as a human on earth does not scare the hell out of you, nothing will.
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Old 26-10-2014, 01:53 PM
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the System, of which we are all a part of, conditions each individual part of the System to fuel up on fear.

from the moment we step outside the sanctuary of the womb
we tread a weary path dressed in gloom
until we come to the realisation that this Life
is truly bathed in Eternal Light
only then will we see with perfect sight.
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Old 26-10-2014, 11:27 PM
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What's there to be afraid of?
You're going Home..
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Old 26-10-2014, 11:27 PM
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Glad to say my NDE was free of any so called religious figure! I'm looking forward to returning Home!


What we experience in the first moments after death is dependent greatly upon our expectations. Thus religious folks often meet God or Jesus where others meet friends or relatives. A human soul has the power to appear as any person to one crossing over. We all have guides though and these eventually make their presence known. They must because it is they who escort us through the process of cleansing away the negatives of the Earth from the lifetime just past. They show us the way home to our eternal lives as souls which were interrupted while we had a body/personality as Earthlings. Later, after assimiliation and study we prepare to return again to Earth for a new body and personality. When Christianity tells us we only live once they are correct. The personality is a product of the body. It is not eternal. It passes away yielding to the soul; But the soul remembers all of it's past personalities and can can call any of them forth at need. It is the soul that projects into Earth lives. Each time with a new personality. So one can see, then, how reincarnation when it refers to "us" living more than one life, is false. Before the end we will have all been male, female, all racial groups, gay and straight, ugly, beautiful, rich and poor, stupid and smart, ordinary and distinguished leaders or common folk. We all will be treated both harshly and with respect. Why? Because all of these contain the lessons that Earth has for us. They are the reason God made the Earth in the first place. Why all of this? We did not "fall to Earth because of original sin. We were intended to be here in the first place. So we can develop wisdom. Why this? Because we all will eventually evolve into Gods in our own right. This is the force which results from God's intelligent design of this temporary and finite universe. It is the reason. While limited by these Earth minds is is difficult to see clearly. This is why new souls on Earth need religion. It provides them with the basics from which they will move forward. Wisdom is not the result of knowledge or faith. Those two always come first.

Why are there so many religions and why do we always manage to fight about what they say? This is because we all are of differing levels of experience, we all have different needs. Mainly is it because the Earth is a place of opposites. Polarity is the word which describes this best. There is little harmony here and for good reason. It is for each of us to overcome it all through personal effort which leads to increased consciousness. In politics, social and religious life we are reminded of this. If the Earth were a perfect Garden of Eden it would be pointless to come here and God would be wasting His time with us.

Last note... The oft mentioned Kingdom of God refers to the condition of the Earth that results from when most of humanity has learned. This is when Satan will be shut up, for a while. One way to become aware of all this is to study scripture. Another is to meditate. Study and meditation are closely attuned.
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Old 27-10-2014, 01:10 PM
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I was in my early teens and had a non religious upbringing of which I am thankful because it meant my NDE was not influenced.

My thoughts on NDE's and what are experienced:

Our imagination is more powerful than we know, and those folk who see a particular religious figure or 'visit' heaven or hell are merely experiencing what their imaginations have created.

Peace.
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