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Old 22-02-2018, 05:04 PM
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None of the famous teachers that I have seen are what I would consider enlightened.

To me the true Dharma is the light. When one has realized the light they can share that light by their presence alone.

Not talking about empowerments either.

There are some advanced guys but not any real stuff going on. Just lots of talk.

Not even Dzogchen Master Norbu claims to be liberated.





" There are some advanced guys but not any real stuff going on."

How are you personally able to judge these ' advanced guys ' against real stuff, what is real stuff?
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Old 22-02-2018, 05:59 PM
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" There are some advanced guys but not any real stuff going on."

How are you personally able to judge these ' advanced guys ' against real stuff, what is real stuff?

I believe my quote answered your question.

Also, sky in how many threads do you need me to answer that question for you?
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Old 22-02-2018, 06:14 PM
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I believe my quote answered your question.

Also, sky in how many threads do you need me to answer that question for you?


Sorry I've forgotten.
How do you personally judge the ' Advanced guys ' from the non advanced guys ?
What do you mean by the real stuff? How do you personally choose the real stuff from the non-real stuff?
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Old 22-02-2018, 06:31 PM
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Sorry I've forgotten.
How do you personally judge the ' Advanced guys ' from the non advanced guys ?
What do you mean by the real stuff? How do you personally choose the real stuff from the non-real stuff?

Can't you feel them if nothing else? Can you not feel another's presence?

Real advanced guys can put you in such a state of silence just by being around them that there is no mistaking it.

More advanced guys can do that with a thought.

Very rare to find.
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Old 22-02-2018, 06:50 PM
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Can't you feel them if nothing else? Can you not feel another's presence?

Real advanced guys can put you in such a state of silence just by being around them that there is no mistaking it.

More advanced guys can do that with a thought.

Very rare to find.


Yes the presence of all sentient beings can be felt, you don't even have to try , it's natural.
Real and More ' Advanced Guys '...... there just labels that mean nothing, All Sentient beings can have the effects you mentioned.... Mybe you put the label of Real and More 'Advanced Guy ' because you can't pick up on all Sentient beings and you feel the one's you do pick up are ' Advanced ' mybe....
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Old 22-02-2018, 06:57 PM
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Yes the presence of all sentient beings can be felt, you don't even have to try , it's natural.
Real and More ' Advanced Guys '...... there just labels that mean nothing, All Sentient beings can have the effects you mentioned.... Mybe you put the label of Real and More 'Advanced Guy ' because you can't pick up on all Sentient beings and you feel the one's you do pick up are ' Advanced ' mybe....

Lot's of mybe in that :)
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Old 22-02-2018, 07:59 PM
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Sadguru - The experience of first-person enlightenment (Jaggy Vasudev)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuZL1NIvbjs
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Old 22-02-2018, 08:11 PM
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Sadguru - The experience of first-person enlightenment (Jaggy Vasudev)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuZL1NIvbjs

Sadguru isn't enlightened either.

He does look the part though
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Old 22-02-2018, 08:37 PM
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Sadhguru...

" Enlightenment never happens. It is there; it is always there. The sadhana that you do is just to see it is there. You are not doing sadhana to construct divinity within you. All you will construct is only ego.
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Old 22-02-2018, 08:38 PM
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Sadguru - The experience of first-person enlightenment (Jaggy Vasudev)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuZL1NIvbjs


A very wise man
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