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Old 07-02-2018, 05:41 PM
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The Direct Approach has already been described.

Oh, so an 'authority' described it and that that? It doesn't work that way.

Silly Pandora.
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Old 07-02-2018, 06:41 PM
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If by approach a person mean 'around' then I understand the context of approach but there is nothing direct about proximity when approach and nonduality are linked.

lol well not to belabor the point but sometimes I think the approach lies through 'absence' of something you already have, rather than 'presence' of something more.

but even if there is something new present that I don't presently know anything about, the next question is, how am I supposed to fill my cup with water when I won't empty it of all this soft drink I am addicted to?

So it seems like I cannot abrogate the role of absence...
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Old 07-02-2018, 07:32 PM
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approach lies through 'absence' of something you already have

Yep

May I illustrate your illustration?

Trying to approach home from home is as an ingrown forest. Eventually a compass will be needed to find the bathroom. Oh, who am I kidding, it's a forest, everywhere is the bathroom!

Gotta go, nature calls.
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Old 07-02-2018, 11:25 PM
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well you put me in my place. I wonder how I knew it was coming?
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Old 07-02-2018, 11:31 PM
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[quote=swampgrl]Oh, so an 'authority' described it and that that? It doesn't work that way. http://www.spiritualforums.com/vb/ne...eply&p=1706389


May all notice that it is not I who initiate contact with this person.
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Old 08-02-2018, 01:18 AM
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you do know that feeding into certain people's agendas won't make people take you seriously? If anything, just the opposite. But I don't envy you for what comes next, either. Trying to avoid certain people just to be taken seriously is just as bad as what you are starting with! keep at it though anyway as it all works out for the best in the end.
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Old 08-02-2018, 02:18 AM
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I thought what is called 'the direct approach' is the meditation Ramana called 'self inquiry'.
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Old 08-02-2018, 03:29 AM
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well you put me in my place. I wonder how I knew it was coming?

Don't know where you got that from. There is nothing in my post remotely meant to put anyone or anything in ANY place. That is so far out of my character to do so.

Reading more into a message says more about the reader then the original intent of the writer. Generalities work like mirrors to the observer and to the writer if they look at them again.

There is more tightly wound mortal coils around here then anywhere. Damn ironic. Enjoy.
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Old 08-02-2018, 03:50 AM
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No one can put anyone in anyplace, that's all the minds work.

"That's all on you."

Mirror mirror on the wall.....
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Old 08-02-2018, 04:59 PM
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you do know that feeding into certain people's agendas won't make people take you seriously? If anything, just the opposite. But I don't envy you for what comes next, either. Trying to avoid certain people just to be taken seriously is just as bad as what you are starting with! keep at it though anyway as it all works out for the best in the end.

Just discussion would be good and with some it is possible without all the personal stuff. Its hard enough to do that face to face with people one knows and trust. This is not such a place.

Once it starts getting personal in places such as this its best to let it go otherwise it can easily descend into abuse which would affect the whole ND forum.
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