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Old 25-02-2018, 03:55 PM
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Are hallucinogenic drugs a factor here?

Otherwise this sounds like fantasy.


That's cute :) Oh my oh my.

Relevant question though, that I should honestly remember to ask more often.

But Raziel - say hallucinogenic drugs were involved; could it not still mean something to 'see' feminine and masculine...?

I mean, sure drugs might work completely arbitrary. But couldn't they also 'color up' things in our senses that are just at the border of our 'sensory reach' so to speak. Sounds we do not 'hear' but feel as vibrations is a classic example that has been tested scientifically: we are affected by sounds outside our hearing frequencies.

Could that not be so with a lot of other things?

Do you seriously think every single one on this forum who has had 'extra-sensory' experiences of various kinds - often the same extra-sensory experiences - are fantasizing?

I mean sure, that's entirely possible.

But it is surely as possible that we are not...?

I get really curious about seeing feminine and masculine it is way out of what I have ever experienced, really cool. I'd want that. (Why, I don't know, just to learn...)
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Old 25-02-2018, 04:52 PM
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That's cute :) Oh my oh my.

Relevant question though, that I should honestly remember to ask more often.

But Raziel - say hallucinogenic drugs were involved; could it not still mean something to 'see' feminine and masculine...?

I mean, sure drugs might work completely arbitrary. But couldn't they also 'color up' things in our senses that are just at the border of our 'sensory reach' so to speak. Sounds we do not 'hear' but feel as vibrations is a classic example that has been tested scientifically: we are affected by sounds outside our hearing frequencies.

Could that not be so with a lot of other things?

Do you seriously think every single one on this forum who has had 'extra-sensory' experiences of various kinds - often the same extra-sensory experiences - are fantasizing?

I mean sure, that's entirely possible.

But it is surely as possible that we are not...?

I get really curious about seeing feminine and masculine it is way out of what I have ever experienced, really cool. I'd want that. (Why, I don't know, just to learn...)

The burden of proof when espousing the fantastical is surely on the claimant?

How many false profits & snake oil salesmen dilute the genuine or muddy the water to the point of absurdity?

This "gift" is essentially useless except as acting as a kind of "gay-o-meter" & even then is it that hard to tell? Why would one care?

If you listen to coast2coast Am - practically every guest has a "message" for Earth via an extraterrestrial race, are they all true? Does it make any sense that separate alien races use the same modus operandi?

Could it be that people like to appear special in the eyes of others regardless of proof?

I stand by my question although I hardly expect an answer.
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Old 25-02-2018, 07:02 PM
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Saying abunch of spare offs rights and truths that time, i'd agree that.

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Old 25-02-2018, 07:09 PM
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The burden of proof when espousing the fantastical is surely on the claimant?


Could it be that people like to appear special in the eyes of others regardless of proof?

I stand by my question although I hardly expect an answer.


Sure.... But listen, we are not here in this forum to give eachother proof. We are here precisely because for once we can mostly just talk about our experiences without proving ourselves...

Because others have had similar experiences.

In here no one is special - because most of us are weird in one way or another.. Why would we be here if we really needed to be special - this is where we become normal...

I understand your scepticism, I don't listen to all chanellings, only the ones that teach me something new - or that resonate true with my intuition, often something that challenges me rather than confirms me. But people can channel as much has they please, its the money machines that upset me, praying on the weak.

In here you will not find ad's etc, not a lot. This is for exchange of experiences.

I realize there are large parts of this forum that are for more 'normal themes' - and this topic might be better in 'auras & chakras' or so - but still, I wonder what proof would be enough for the world... The topics discussed here are so 'out there' for 'normal society' that it will be nonsense to most.

I don't think you will get an answer, right, because how do you prove you see a persons feminine and masculine? how do I prove to you that I at one point saw black soot around a man? how do I prove to you that I at another time could see some people - separate from eachother - in a crowd stand out as if they were in 3D and others were 2D. And it turned out they all knew eachother - and I had no idea. I don't feel the need to prove it, I just wish you would experience something for yourself so you would know what it's like... It's really lonely - until you find a place like this where others believe you as a norm instead of the other way around.

make any sense?

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Old 25-02-2018, 08:12 PM
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Sure.... But listen, we are not here in this forum to give eachother proof. We are here precisely because for once we can mostly just talk about our experiences without proving ourselves...

Because others have had similar experiences.

In here no one is special - because most of us are weird in one way or another.. Why would we be here if we really needed to be special - this is where we become normal...

I understand your scepticism, I don't listen to all chanellings, only the ones that teach me something new - or that resonate true with my intuition, often something that challenges me rather than confirms me. But people can channel as much has they please, its the money machines that upset me, praying on the weak.

In here you will not find ad's etc, not a lot. This is for exchange of experiences.

I realize there are large parts of this forum that are for more 'normal themes' - and this topic might be better in 'auras & chakras' or so - but still, I wonder what proof would be enough for the world... The topics discussed here are so 'out there' for 'normal society' that it will be nonsense to most.

I don't think you will get an answer, right, because how do you prove you see a persons feminine and masculine? how do I prove to you that I at one point saw black soot around a man? how do I prove to you that I at another time could see some people - separate from eachother - in a crowd stand out as if they were in 3D and others were 2D. And it turned out they all knew eachother - and I had no idea. I don't feel the need to prove it, I just wish you would experience something for yourself so you would know what it's like... It's really lonely - until you find a place like this where others believe you as a norm instead of the other way around.

make any sense?

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Old 25-02-2018, 08:17 PM
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For every "sharer" there is also a seeker.

Is it fair for a seeker to have to trim the fat daily, to have the actual truth pushed down to the very bottom of the pile by "claims" as apposed to honesty?

It is reasonable to ask for further clarification.

Fantasists enable other fantasists so excuse me if I don't just nod along complacently upon your request.
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Old 25-02-2018, 10:00 PM
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Question/Rabbit Trail or whatever you deem it to be...

When you pick up on these gender reveal energies, are you seeing a gender, or is your mind assigning a gender based upon previous schemas, having learned their properties through what we call life. To see the energy for what it is without a label or to understand it through the lens of learned interpretation?
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Old 26-02-2018, 09:39 AM
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The burden of proof when espousing the fantastical is surely on the claimant?

How many false profits & snake oil salesmen dilute the genuine or muddy the water to the point of absurdity?

This "gift" is essentially useless except as acting as a kind of "gay-o-meter" & even then is it that hard to tell? Why would one care?

If you listen to coast2coast Am - practically every guest has a "message" for Earth via an extraterrestrial race, are they all true? Does it make any sense that separate alien races use the same modus operandi?

Could it be that people like to appear special in the eyes of others regardless of proof?

I stand by my question although I hardly expect an answer.

I have seen others intentions with me how they feel about me and the things they said about me. This I did not ask for. But has helped me because I do not entertain or even work for certain people in my life who view me in a certain light. To be specific the same light you're viewing the OP and others like them.
Much like the Dalai Lama will size up your sincerity and authenticity within the first few minutes of being in his presence and either give you his full attention or politely dismiss himself from your presence.

I've picked up on females thinking about me and even wanting my number but not knowing how to bring it up casually in conversation. I've picked up on intentions with some females as well where their intentions was primarily sex or money. I've had diversions and warning that kept me away from physical harm and danger. I've been woken up out of sleep to warn friends of danger more than once.

I've never picked up on sexual preference. But why would I as it makes no difference to me if someone is "gay" or not. Although I have picked up on feminine and mascualine in those that I speak to. A lot of females that I end up befriending are mascualine and relate to me easier because of my energy. I approach individuals differently based on their energy. I won't try to give a mascualine a hug if they're sad. I'll try to point out something to laugh at instead of being empathetic emotionally with them. It is very helpful to get road signs for others around you.

In the field of therapy and psychology this is very helpful.

Basically it is very helpful and useful but also has its drawbacks.
I agree some people speak about gifts to feel special not realizing everyone has the same afforded to them but turns them off during adolescence and childhood.

No one is better than another just as no one is below another.
Neither are we equal to each other as well. We are all fingerprints. Everyone is different, everyone is their own individual person.

I've noticed that those that doubt others are usually lacking faith about themselves. it has been said by a lot of wise teachers guides and gurus that the world is a mirror to yourself. "What you notice in others is something deeper inside of yourself."
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Old 26-02-2018, 10:06 AM
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"What you notice in others is something deeper inside of yourself."

I notice that Brock Lesnar is a really big guy - does that mean that I am a really big fellow on the inside?

You can throw any quote at anyone & feign enlightenment however there is nothing self empowering about believing a fraudulent claim.

Seeking truth requires uncovering un-truths & acknowledging that they exist.

Questioning somethings validity is a necessity in life is it not?

I have fought my own battles & conquered many a demon.

There are times when it is required to be strong, cold & steadfast in order to hold your own ground, perhaps this is something that you are lacking - but not I.

I have faith in myself - less so in others - this is logical as I control my own destiny & am responsible for it.

When I worked with aggressive dogs, there were times when a German shepherd was easier to handle than a chihuahua. I've talked down the meanest monster & been attacked by the most fragile & timid.

I will question ... everyone should.
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Old 26-02-2018, 10:29 AM
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Quote:
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You can throw any quote at anyone & feign enlightenment however there is nothing self empowering about believing a fraudulent claim.
it's probably tough to
think up one "quote"
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