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Old 05-11-2017, 03:00 AM
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Duality is the illusion

Duality is the illusion that you gotta respect and hopefully find that Trinity's, Dualities and Unities are in essence all One and Point towards Oneness.

One thing I found when realizing that there is a "Higher Self" was that the lower self was the ego and an illusion but once I realized that the Higher Self is nothing but what I call the True Inner Self making it within only realizing that the self others perceive based on the mere notion that they believe what they see and so do you in a sense until you realize that you are the seer not the seen. But the mere fact that others still perceive you as a subject because of their perception of your body as opposed to their body which they consider their I and in a way we all do based on our cultural language patterns we are influenced by memes and language is full of them and not all of them are verities for lack of a better word.

For instance, when you say the personal pronoun I are you referring to your body? or is it in and of itself a code for programming your True Inner Self which is formless unlike the perception based off of building a world view that trusts in the sense of sight.
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Old 05-11-2017, 03:11 AM
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The collective consciousness is what a yogi strives to merge with because then you will be at Peace with the Noosephere (The Biosphere of Thought developed by Intelligent Homosapiens) of course what really influences your fate is both physical, mental, and etheric factors such as: your environment, your mindset, and your karma.

Understanding illuminates the intellect and expands the Consciousness.
Ultimately we cannot Love that which we do not in someway Understand.
And we cannot feel Bliss unless we live in Love.

Words have the ability to alter our consciousness by the mere fact of our understanding them.
Glosolallia was reappearing in 1901 where certain Orthodox Christians claimed to have recieved the Baptism of the Holy Spirit/Baptism of Fire. These sects did not survive because none of them stressed a compassionate Edenic/Ayruovedic diet and to this day these gluttons claim to worship the G-d of the Living yet insist on consuming dead flesh of corpses with parasites and blood because the sad churchians are still very much a part of the Roman Catholic church that kept the Day of the Sun as its primary holyday yet claims to revere the first Five Books of Moses.
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Old 08-11-2017, 01:33 AM
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the Noosephere (The Biosphere of Thought developed by Intelligent Homosapiens) I called this the ' humaniversum '. Hehe.

When you reach that point, what a yogi strives to do. To merge with the collective consciousness what exactly do you experience with all its facets.
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Old 08-11-2017, 05:41 AM
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When you merge with the Collective Consciousness your deeds will be pure mirrors. You will not ACT but simply reflect to others themselves.
The Sages merges his Mind with the People.
The People all fix their eyes and ears on Him,
and he treats them all as his children.
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Old 11-11-2017, 07:38 PM
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For instance, when you say the personal pronoun I are you referring to your body?

My perspective is that we are each a point of individualised consciousness resting in the wider circle of our Being.

Does that point of consciousness identify with Being?

Or does that point of consciousness identify with itself as Consciousness?

Or does that point of consciousness identify with a particular personality expressing itself through a separate physical body?

Our sense of "I" will vary according to what we identify with.

Ramana Maharshi advocated Self-enquiry - when we hold our attention on the sense of "I" and ask ourselves "Who am I?" then we discover that there is no "I", there is only awareness.

At the same time, it is good to be simple and practical. Even if we identify with Being, it is easiest in everyday life just to use the word "I" in the usual sense.

There may be non-dualists who pounce on any use of the word "I" as showing that we are still caught in the duality of "I" and "not-I". My opinion is that if we have realised non-duality then we can use any words we like - it really does not matter.

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Old 13-11-2017, 01:16 AM
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There may be non-dualists who pounce on any use of the word "I" as showing that we are still caught in the duality of "I" and "not-I".

I'm not sure I would agree with such non-dualist's assessment that they are, indeed, non-dualists.
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