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Old 28-09-2017, 06:47 AM
Joe Mc Joe Mc is offline
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okay: describe the experience in your interconnected egoless is-ness way, please

Non duality, means not two. in duality there are two types of persona. One persona is an illusion the other is real. One witness is false the other is authentic. When the real witness comes through the door the false witness is seen for what it is. The false witness finds a natural place and is no longer is charge. things which where stated as being real from the false witnesses point of view are seen for what they are, neither false nor real, but they are not what the false witness had claimed them to be. This is seen clearly. There is a knowing, a pure knowing which is beyond and even in control of the false witness. I'm using the words and ideas of persona and knowing to point as accurately as i can to what ive experienced so far. There isn't two anymore the real self has an aspect which some people call ego. But when the ego is in control or the false self there are two, there is duality, there is the ordinary self and the spiritual self from the ego's point of view. This is the first time i've ever used words to try and describe this so thanks for the opportunity.
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Old 29-09-2017, 01:34 PM
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so...the original non-dual thinkers had it wrong?

Nondual realization/revelation is timeless and borderless. No one originated it, no tradition can claim ownership of it. Itís an energetic shift in perception - a non-conceptual gnosis. Any/all attempts to conceptualize, systemize and formulate it will be, to some degree, subject to human limitation, interpretation and bias. Hence the differences in the traditions.
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Old 03-10-2017, 02:53 PM
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Nondual realization/revelation is timeless and borderless. No one originated it, no tradition can claim ownership of it. It’s an energetic shift in perception - a non-conceptual gnosis. Any/all attempts to conceptualize, systemize and formulate it will be, to some degree, subject to human limitation, interpretation and bias. Hence the differences in the traditions.
Hi Moondance,

Well said, and adding (or repeating) that per thread topic: "rejecting aspects of non-duality?", any such rejection would necessarily be a result of those limitations of cognition including and especially mental/conceptual - as codified within various traditions or as experienced through various individuals.


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