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Old 30-08-2017, 11:30 AM
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I think a few folks might say that most of humanity is UNconscious. They walk about day after day like robots, doing what they're told and playing little to no active role in the lives they live. They don't think for themselves and they don't ask a lot of questions (like you have here).


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Those of us who think and read and listen and are active in the why/wherefore questions are maybe guilty of underestimating those who don't announce their presence as not being robots. My own contacts have shown me that there are many people don't respond quickly to 'God and the world' questions - but when they do it has always surprised me.

What I can't get into my head is why we (not all obviously) accept being alive in flesh so phlegmatically as if to say being 'here' as I am, is 'normal'. They may as well add on 'it is as I expected'. There aren't many people who are astounded at being alive. There are also those who are prepared to take all sorts of risks, putting their own lives in danger.

Almost every child asks at sometime how/why am I here? The answers they get would fill a book and makes non of us the wiser.

There is, it seems to me, to be an inherent knowledge in the minds of mankind that no matter what happens everything will, in the end, be alright.

In my own case I recall at the age of about nine being suddenly overwhelmed at the simple impossibility of being what we call 'alive', this realisation has never left me. To think that this may all be a product of my own imagination, shared or not, raises the question of consciousness into another dimension.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2NLEYHjG1g - this is the best I have ever heard.

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Old 30-08-2017, 02:34 PM
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Lightbulb 2-300 million Years After BB

https://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard...istance-record

..."It managed to beat all the previous distance records held for years by much larger ground-based telescopes,” said investigator Pieter van Dokkum of Yale University. “This new record will likely stand until the launch of the James Webb Space Telescope.”

...The combination of Hubble’s and Spitzer’s imaging reveals that GN-z11 is 25 times smaller than the Milky Way and has just one percent of our galaxy’s mass in stars. However, the newborn GN-z11 is growing fast, forming stars at a rate about 20 times greater than our galaxy does today. This makes an extremely remote galaxy bright enough for astronomers to find and perform detailed observations with both Hubble and Spitzer.


....The results reveal surprising new clues about the nature of the very early universe. “It’s amazing that a galaxy so massive existed only 200 million to 300 million years after the very first stars started to form.
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It takes really fast growth, producing stars at a huge rate, to have formed a galaxy that is a billion solar masses so soon,” explained investigator Garth Illingworth of the University of California, Santa Cruz."...
https://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/f...?itok=3MwmiRe5
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Old 30-08-2017, 07:55 PM
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Those of us who think and read and listen and are active in the why/wherefore questions are maybe guilty of underestimating those who don't announce their presence as not being robots. My own contacts have shown me that there are many people don't respond quickly to 'God and the world' questions - but when they do it has always surprised me.

What I can't get into my head is why we (not all obviously) accept being alive in flesh so phlegmatically as if to say being 'here' as I am, is 'normal'. They may as well add on 'it is as I expected'. There aren't many people who are astounded at being alive. There are also those who are prepared to take all sorts of risks, putting their own lives in danger.


There is, it seems to me, to be an inherent knowledge in the minds of mankind that no matter what happens everything will, in the end, be alright.

In my own case I recall at the age of about nine being suddenly overwhelmed at the simple impossibility of being what we call 'alive', this realisation has never left me. To think that this may all be a product of my own imagination, shared or not, raises the question of consciousness into another dimension.

There's not really that much to say. I think probably those that say the least are the wisest. :) "I don't know" seems to be a smart answer!

If being alive and human isn't normal - what is? How am I supposed to be astounded when I just found out that hot guy wants to ask me out, or my boss is looking for a reason to fire me, or I just caught my spouse having an affair, or my kid is sick, or - fill in the blank. Surface stuff assaults our senses - regularly. And I think this makes it nearly impossible for some to consider the bigger picture (which seems to be just absurdly ginormous, but maybe really isn't ...).

The enormity of things going on - right now - the massive scale on which events are transpiring is overwhelming - for us to think about - not for them to happen. The possibilities of what things are and where they're going and why this and what about that is ... there are no words. Mind Boggling. We just can't know by using math and reason alone. There's more. Levels and levels of deeper stuff.


We don't really have an option other than to think/hope that in the end - things will be alright. Do we? Thinking (or is it knowing?) any other way is without hope or ambition and I think that runs counter intuitive to human nature. Perhaps that "inherent knowledge" as you call it is consciousness. :)

So if we're impossible and here - what else is impossible and here? And what's behind it all?
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Old 31-08-2017, 04:47 PM
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Question Postive ( ) > ^v^v < )( Negative

Consciousness minimum = 2, i.e. awareness begins with otherness.

1} observer ex a photon, a graviton etc

2} observed ex electron is what photons interact with,

3} line-of-relationship between two electrons is photon{ aka electro-magnetic radiation } or at mininimum gravitational relationship,

4} background which all of the above three take place within.

Vector Equilirbrium{ VE } is the operating system of Universe aka Uni-V-erse.

..."440.01 Equilibrium between positive and negative is zero. The vector equilibrium is the true zero reference of the energetic mathematics.
....Zero pulsation in the vector equilibrium is the nearest approach we will ever know to eternity and god: the zerophase of conceptual integrity inherent in the positive and negative asymmetries that propagate the differentials of consciousness."....

VE = 12 around 1 equal-radius spheres ergo VE is nucleated aka pregnant{ cosmic pregnancy aka one-in-the-oven }.

http://www.rwgrayprojects.com/synerg...igs/f2201.html

There exists four primary kinds of twoness.
http://www.rwgrayprojects.com/synerg...igs/f7310.html

When the nucleated 13th sphere is removed the VE contracts to the icosahedron{ 12-around-0 }
http://www.rwgrayprojects.com/synerg...igs/f1603.html

What happens to the nuclear one-in-the-oven sphere?

The VE is defined by 24 chords and icosahedron is defined by 30 chords, so we say that, the nuclear one-in-the-oven is the chords of a tetrahedron and becomes the missing 6 chords of the icosahedron.

24{ contracts } > 30{ resultant }

However, this is a simple cosmic scenario. The 24 also is associated with 4 great circle/hexagonal planes.

The 30 are associated with 15 great complex great circle/hexagonal planes.

In total the VE has 25 great circles and icosahedron has 31 left and 31 right great circles. So total is 87 great circles.

http://www.rwgrayprojects.com/synerg...gs/f3201b.html

Next comes my extrapolation of those 87 as 87 great tori, with each having positive space( ), flat space and negative space )( curvature with sine-wave frequency ^v^v inside as time/reality ^v^v.

All of my original Synergetic considerations did not include toru/tori. Once I realized each great circle is in actually a torus, then postive gravity and negative dark energy became inherent to my considerations.

The sine-wave frequency became evident only after I inside-outed my four levels exploration of prime numbers.

Our consciousness{ awarness } only is associated with sine-wave patterned frequencies of fermions and bosons, that is the interference of the sine-wave patterned frequencies of the primary set of 87 great tori plus any 2ndary or more resultant great cirles{ tori tubes }.

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Consciousness minimum = 2, i.e. awareness begins with otherness.

1} observer ex a photon, a graviton etc

2} observed ex electron is what photons interact with,

3} line-of-relationship between two electrons is photon{ aka electro-magnetic radiation } or at mininimum gravitational relationship,

4} background which all of the above three take place within.

Equilibrium between positive and negative is zero. The vector equilibrium is the true zero reference of the energetic mathematics.
....Zero pulsation in the vector equilibrium is the nearest approach we will ever know to eternity and god: the zerophase of conceptual integrity inherent in the positive and negative asymmetries that propagate the differentials of consciousness."

There exists four primary kinds of twoness.
The sine-wave frequency became evident only after I inside-outed my four levels exploration of prime numbers.

Our consciousness{ awarness } only is associated with sine-wave patterned frequencies of fermions and bosons, that is the interference of the sine-wave patterned frequencies of the primary set of 87 great tori plus any 2ndary or more resultant great cirles{ tori tubes }.

r6

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I included the above because that's my takeaway from your post. The rest of what you wrote would require that I do a lot of research to understand it.

How would you simplify or summarize everything you wrote to someone who doesn't understand the language you use to write?
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:)How would you simplify or summarize everything you wrote to someone who doesn't understand the language you use to write?

Fuller and I both use English. You will have to specify what exactly you do not understand. Tho some geometry terms are greek. Tetra, octa, icosa etc.

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Old 01-09-2017, 03:09 PM
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Puzzling about my initial contribution to this topic and how important the word 'overwhelming' is reminded me of some of the quotes I've heard or read at different times.

The best way to use these quotes is to take a short cut and say 'We spend our lives looking at things but not seeing them'. This well explains that moment when the world appeared to me as something 'impossible'. Not only did I see it so but I understood it so. This 'understanding' has burned into my mind.

Leonardo de Vinci seems to have spent a great part of his life in such a state of other consciousness. He even said people don't see the things they are looking at. Another person who comes to mind is Emanuel Swedenborg who seems to have spent the latter years of his life on this earth but in another condition of consciousness. C.J.Jung was someone who experienced altered states of consciousness, in his book 'Memories, Dreams and Reflections' he relates how in the Sistene Chapel he was surprised at the beautiful light. Upon remarking to his friend who had accompanied him about this wonderful illumination his friend looked at him in amazement saying how he thought it was so dim in that place.

From all those people who have experienced OBEs or NDEs - some of whom I know - only one has ever said that in her opinion her experience was due to brain chemistry. She's a psycholgist.

The discovery that a single atom possibly has consciousness forces us, should it be proven, to the old rock, plant, animal, human steps of ascendency. Starting indeed with the BB.
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Hydrogen Has Minimal Seven Aspects of Consideration

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'We spend our lives looking at things but not seeing them'.

Isn't this what Sherlock Holmes{ modern } is always saying to Watson, at least in the new modern BBC series version{ I love it }.

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The discovery that a single atom possibly has consciousness forces us, should it be proven, to the old rock, plant, animal, human steps of ascendency. Starting indeed with the BB.

Hydrogen is electron and proton. Ergo inherent twoness, and the proton is composed of a threeness.

Plus the line-of-relationship between electron and the proton that is at minimum, a gravitatonal relationship, irrespective of how weak the gravitational force{?}.

1} electron,

2} proton,

3} charge{ EMRadiation? or weak force W+ W- or Zo } between,

4} gravity ( ) ,

5 - 6} two quarks{ up or down },

7} one quark, opposite of above mentioned.

My newest numerical and geometry explorations would have me add dark energy )( to the list of 7 above ergo 8 aspects at minimal to consider.
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