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Old 20-08-2017, 02:08 AM
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Old 20-08-2017, 11:49 PM
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Hi,

There was a Kryon workshop about channeling in June 2017. There were some very interesting insights presented that support many of the concepts shared by those involved in this discussion.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzDGXdsBN_A

What was not clarified in this message which is elsewhere in the Kryon material is that our conduit for communication is the higher self.

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Old 29-08-2017, 02:19 PM
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Thank you John. very interesting!

Crystal, I appreciate your sharing. i hope the boy is healthy and returned to himself... there is no doubt that there is an absolute need for understanding and protection in everything related to this.

hey Lynn.
Thank you so much for sharing your beautiful experience.
I melted. ❤
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Old 29-10-2017, 07:47 AM
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Crystal Song is right. DANGEROUS Why would you want trance channeling - that means you wouldn't even know if anyone came in or what they said, let alone what else would happen. You'd need someone there to tell you what happened. Not wise to open up to the unknown like that - you can't assume it would be a good and loving spirit of a high level. You might bring in something you'll wish you could undo. I wonder if what you mean is to just channel. Even that, I think you need training to know how to handle things.
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Old 29-10-2017, 12:08 PM
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I would Echo what John and lynn have said

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Old 30-10-2017, 08:46 AM
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Just to clarify in case I came across too critical without explanation. I started as a student of metaphysics and have channeled and done healings for over 35 years. So when I try to impress Maaya2809 on the possible danger of trans channeling (or channeling) without training, I do know something about it. What started me to study was because I had received a contact and didn't understand who or what it was.
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Old 23-11-2017, 04:11 AM
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Crystal Song is right. DANGEROUS Why would you want trance channeling - that means you wouldn't even know if anyone came in or what they said, let alone what else would happen. You'd need someone there to tell you what happened. Not wise to open up to the unknown like that - you can't assume it would be a good and loving spirit of a high level. You might bring in something you'll wish you could undo. I wonder if what you mean is to just channel. Even that, I think you need training to know how to handle things.

Ah, but with trance channeling it is less likely for the ego to get in the way of things. No filter.

That said, I still would be leery of doing that type of channeling. I don’t trust the spirit world very much—heck I have trouble trusting my guides at times.
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Old 23-11-2017, 09:48 AM
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hey everybody . :)

lately i have been interested in trance channeling.
I know that there is a lot of information on the Internet, but there are things i still have not figured out how they work and how to do it.

can anyone give me some tips or information about how to get into trance state?
how do i give permission to an entity that wants to use my body and channel? (telepathy, speak, thought),
and how do i invite the entity?

all practical information will be great. ��
Greetings.

The method is different for everybody and we have to find out what it is that 'triggers' the trance state, through trial and error. Also, after some time, our psyche gets used to the 'trigger' and so, a new one must be found.

Also, most of the trance states won't involve a channel because while you are in that state, you aren't able to channel.

A few nights ago, I was listening to a very slow repetition of the mantra "Om Namah Shivaya" which went for 30 minutes and I started chanting along, but the mantra required very deep inhalations, a retention of breath for about 30 seconds, followed by a very deep and full exhalation.

After a while, I was not aware of my body...the bed I was sitting on...and I found myself doing many hand mudras and gazing at my own hands without any thoughts...what followed was me going into a Balinese Legong style dance in full on trance-mode.

After a while, I passed out and woke up the next morning upside-down in my bed...my feet were where my pillow was and my head was where my feet usually were.

Occasionally I will channel a Deva in trance and sometimes I'll be aware of it and be able to write it down, but other times I'm so far gone, I don't recall it and it's up to another person to be present...but if I am alone, I sorta go 'why bother?' lol
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Old 23-11-2017, 02:08 PM
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He's possessed.

Trance channeling is very very dangerous. It means you let something move into your body and speak with your vocal cords. You give up sovereignty over your body and go into a little tiny space in your consciousness, not aware or only dimly aware of what it is doing and saying with your mouth, your vocal cords, your body.

It might not want to leave. It might not know how to operate your body correctly and might not know what the pressure on the bladder means or that feeling when you have to go poo and you might make 'messes' of yourself in public, it might have been a long time since it was in a body and be interested in nothing more than continuous sex or drinking, it might not want to go to your job or school, it might not like your friends and family and screech in foreign off-world languages at them threateningly,
.....and when it's finally done joyriding in your body you might not have much of a life to come back into...

...get a feel for just how messy it can be?

Thank you, thank you, I can not thank you enough.

I am thanking you because I have been through it. This very thing.

I have told the story here before, and was met with flat out crickets with the exception of one member who was kind to me enough to listen.

It happened to both myself and a friend. He was possessed first his eyes turned black, and he spit Latin at me- not of his own voice- I was able to talk him down by appealing to the human within him. I had every faith that the human within was still within.

Now I talked to him appealed to my friend as him without any doubt he was there, I re-assured him that I knew he was there. I told him "This is not you, I am going to hug you, I do not care if you hurt me, I realize it isn't you doing this." I hugged my friend and spoke softly to him, and after a while the entity, demon, thing, what have you left him.

His eyes returned to normal he began to be himself again, he thanked me for helping him.

My ignorant gutsy self proclaimed thank god it's over.

Thinking that it wouldn't dare attempt to pull anything with me.

It happened to me.

It used my vocals in a way that isn't human, at instances I could speak and this thing could speak somehow through my apparatus at the same instant- it felt very vibrational. My eyes according to my friend, and like my friend's had turned fully jet black.

I felt angry and hateful. I was very aware this was happening, what I was feeling, and what I was doing. I could not control a word that came out of my mouth. It would stick my own tongue deep into my throat in an attempt to choke/ suffocate me. I kept motioning to my throat of my own will to my friend trying to get him to realize and understand that it was choking me, he didn't believe me when I was able to tell him that, even after all of this. He very well then and there proclaimed that yes we both had been possessed, but he still argued with me over myself being choked.

Now I too had spoken Latin as did my friend at my friend due to this being while spitting at my friend.

The thing is the entity underestimated my intuition, and I was able to ascertain the last phrase the entity was saying: It said as follows- "Swallow the poison yourself". It spit this at my friend.

I could understand that this last bit as I heard it, was the same phrase my friend had spat at me under his possession.

At that time I knew nothing of St. Benedict.

Years later my father gave me a St. Benedict Medal. One evening as I spoke to him about it I had asked what the Latin meant- he recited it to me.

Hearing it didn't register to me at the time. When I looked it up myself a couple weeks later and saw for myself what it said- at the very end of the St. Benedict story to his poisoners "Swallow the poison yourselves".

I to my horror realized, the ugly truth. The entity was Mocking it.

This happens every day to many many people often times to a lesser degree- often times it gets worse. I notice it happen to people around me- they have black eyes- or their eyes become black- sometimes you have to snap someone out of it- yelling to them etc. They can wake up in a shock and not mean their actions.

The truth of the matter is- this type of thing happens to me more often than I like.

I will catch it in the mirror, my own eyes being black. Most of the time as soon as I catch it it will thankfully (!!!!!!!!!) simply depart.

The thing is you don't even have to try to channel anything, for me it happens, anytime, anywhere, most of the time I am alone, and catch it in the mirror.

These are not the ramblings of a crazy person. I have seen this myself. Other people have seen it. Not many are willing to admit it.

Op- what you are thinking about is beyond dangerous. No it isn't a game. Someone possessed by one of these entities was heck bent on smashing my and my father's skull in with a hatchet once, with his black eyes and all. It's a miracle he turned and left after a bit of yelling and talking at the guy, as even when the black had departed and his human sober self was back- he still was trying to get at us. Until finally I said something else to him along the lines of "What the hell do you think you are doing"? And the straw broke the camel's back long enough for him to snap out of it and turn tail and run.

I as many others here respect CrystalSong as a member. I have no doubt that what she is saying is true. Please trust her.

Others may caution to do what you will at your own peril and simply be aware of consequences. I implore that you not try this at all.
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Old 23-11-2017, 02:31 PM
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Interesting story.

I have also been told to 'swallow the poison myself' a few times, but because I am a Hindu Shaivite...

When the universe was created, the cosmic milk ocean was all churned up.

Mount Meru was inverted and placed on the back of the Kumera tortoise (Lord Vishnu) and the rainbow serpent, Vasuki was wound around the mountain...the Suras (good guys) were on one side...the Asuras (bad dudes) on the other...and they were turning Mount Meru around and around to churn the ocean up.

During the churning, a lot of things came out of the ocean...the wish-fulfilling cow (kamdhenu), the 7 celestial maidens, the Kasturba diamond, Soma (the nectar of immortality) and a deadly poison called Hala-Hala.

This also corresponds to the churning of the 'heart ocean' by positive and negative emotions which gives rise to the Soma (bliss of unconditional love) and also to Hala-Hala (anger, hate and all physical maladies and afflictions which are psychosomatic in nature).

Now, this Hala-Hala poison was so potent and corrosive, that if a single drop spilled, it could destroy the world...none of the Suras nor Asuras could handle it...not even Lord Vishnu or Lord Brahma could handle it...and so, they called upon Lord Shiva to try and contain it...and He did so, by drinking it...it gave Him a blue throat in the process, which gave Him the name of Neelkanth (the blue-throated one).

Many times when I am physically or mentally afflicted, I would pray to Lord Shiva and ask Him to swallow my poison (the poison of my heart which affects my body) and quite a few times He has told me to swallow the poison myself...which means that I must heal myself and do things to take care of myself better before He can heal me...that I needed to work on myself more instead of continually asking Him to intervene.

The reason why I don't get possessed, my eyes don't turn black and I don't spit out Latin...is because I am not afraid of anything...I have absolutely no fear...there's nothing any demon can use against me...and I guess I've also got my 'boundaries' in tact and my Higher Self and Lord Shiva reinforces them...besides, I'm not a Christian and don't know any Christian things, so all those demonic experiences, I don't get.
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