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Old 01-08-2017, 02:54 AM
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Devotion to Christ is no more or less connected to Oneness than anything else manifesting, including all that is disliked and opposed.

Well if oneness insists all manifesting is all just one reality I have my reservations. Perhaps God is outside of creation but also within it. Being out side and the source of creation and yet within it could be considered "oneness" but it's also questionable how that truly works?

If God could take you or me right out of the equation of life which Perhaps God can but my heart tells me would not, then we are participants in Gods splendor and glory. Hence the good Angels sing.

All the more reason to give thanks and devotion?
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Old 01-08-2017, 06:26 AM
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I was born and raised a Christion so I had it feed to me from day one. I had great parents, we went to church every Sunday, my father was a good man and my mother outstanding too.

I still consider myself a Christian in a mystical way. Having faith in a living God that loves you can be very profound. I like the gnostic texts and Have read some also. They put a different spin on the life of Christ.

Anyway, these days I'm open to many possibilities, life is large. The Christ is remarkable no doubt. God incarnate if you buy into it. I'm in love with the cosmic Christ. The living Christ, the Christ of all compassion and love. The Buddha is right up there too...

I definitely feel blessed to have found my own path. The Christ of all compassion and love is the Christ I know. :) I also love the teachings of Buddha. I grew to not be so concerned with labels and arguments and just focus on my own spiritual connection with "all that is" in my own experience. When I started following my heart and intuition I opened my mind to learning all kinds of possibilities. People of different views and beliefs were always landing right in front of me and I would listen to them if I felt they were coming from a loving and non judgmental place. There is so much magic and wonder in life that I just couldn't find wrapped in "one little religion's box". I'm not discounting any religion, of course. Everyone has their own pathway to the Divine and their own spiritual way of thinking and living. I prefer the possibilities, as you said. I truly believe if more worked together instead of against each other we'd have more understanding in the world. I hold hope to the possibility of that. :)

Thanks for sharing your background :)
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Old 02-08-2017, 03:35 AM
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Yes, that's the way I flow with spirituality these days.

I think if a person is truly spiritual then they must also be a mystic. Because it's beyond us, within us, and not simply answered in books and dogmas.

However, there is wisdom there....
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Old 02-08-2017, 08:37 AM
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My favourite quote from The Bible:

"Before Abraham was, I AM" - cannot get any more non-dual than that.
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Old 02-08-2017, 12:24 PM
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Yes, that's the way I flow with spirituality these days.

I think if a person is truly spiritual then they must also be a mystic. Because it's beyond us, within us, and not simply answered in books and dogmas.

However, there is wisdom there....

for, sure :)
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Old 02-08-2017, 12:25 PM
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My favourite quote from The Bible:

"Before Abraham was, I AM" - cannot get any more non-dual than that.

Yesss :) That's awesome. :)
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Old 03-08-2017, 03:48 AM
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Before "I am" there is nothing because God is truly the one source.

The burning question is...have we God given souls?
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Old 03-08-2017, 06:32 AM
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Well if oneness insists all manifesting is all just one reality I have my reservations. Perhaps God is outside of creation but also within it. Being out side and the source of creation and yet within it could be considered "oneness" but it's also questionable how that truly works?

If God could take you or me right out of the equation of life which Perhaps God can but my heart tells me would not, then we are participants in Gods splendor and glory. Hence the good Angels sing.

All the more reason to give thanks and devotion?

The nondual point being made is that there are no such reservations or exceptions to Oneness being all there is.

Devotion to Christ whilst excluding what you dont like in the manifestation would be a contradiction in terms.
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Old 03-08-2017, 03:16 PM
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Perhaps God is outside of creation but also within it. Being out side and the source of creation and yet within it could be considered "oneness" but it's also questionable how that truly works?

Hi Nowayout,

Just a quick comment by way of definition:

What you describe in your above quoted is usually referred to as:
'qualified non-dualism'.

And btw, regardless of religious tradition and including most of the major ones,
that particular orientation is held by an overwhelming majority of people at the present time.

~ J
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Old 03-08-2017, 03:22 PM
Shivani Devi Shivani Devi is offline
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Also, if anybody would like to understand 'qualified non-dualism/monism' or what we call Vishishtadvaita or Acintya Bheda-Abheda Tattwa, just ask and I'll be all too happy to go there. =)
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