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Old 13-06-2017, 06:14 AM
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How much fruit can I eat?

I have cut out all refined sugar from my diet.

But, I know fruits have natural sugar and I wonder what kind of effect it has if I eat too many fruits?

I know sugar is detrimental to overall health and we only need roughly 25g (or possibly less) every single day, but we know fruits are healthy because of the vitamins and minerals they contain.

I want to start eating a ton of dates so I can gain weight, but one date is 16g of sugar which is about all you really need for one day.

Right now I feel that no matter how much sugar I take in it won't really be all that detrimental to me, so long as I take it in from fruits, however I want to know your perspective at this time.
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Old 13-06-2017, 11:09 AM
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unless you're a walking skeleton, i don't see why would you want to gain weight.

i think you might be better searching for a dietitian, or health related forums for answers to your question.

in any case, you should know there are 3 somatic body types, and one of them simply cannot gain weight no matter how much the person eats, another types has a lot of troubles losing weight [i'm this one], and another one is in-between. i heard some people show characteristics from 2 of these types, but i assume they're more rare?

no matter the reason you want to gain some weight, you are better off to talk to a specialist. you can gain lots of fat or you could gain muscles - both will increase your weight, but you'll be looking different based on which option you choose. [i'd go with the muscle weight gain and not the fat one, as that can affect the health in many negative ways].

take care of yourself. and good luck.
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Old 13-06-2017, 12:15 PM
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unless you're a walking skeleton, i don't see why would you want to gain weight.

in any case, you should know there are 3 somatic body types, and one of them simply cannot gain weight no matter how much the person eats,

Yeah, I'm 5'7" and weigh only 115 pounds, which is nearly skelly level. I am going to do a lot of muscle training because it sounds fun.

Setting that to the side for a moment, what can you tell me about fruit sugars?
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Old 13-06-2017, 01:17 PM
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There are no studies that have shown fruit causes spikes to blood sugar the same way artificial sugar does. Regardless of how much fruit was consumed during the studies.

I myself eat a ton of fruit. I mean A ton. Most days I will eat an entire bag of grapes. As well a pineapple and other fruit depending on how I feel. On recent blood work that I had done, back in April, my glucose was at 103. Which is within healthy ranges.

If you want to gain weight, up your calorie intake. As well as add in healthy fats, such as nuts. Peanut butter can help.
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Old 13-06-2017, 01:53 PM
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If you're a diabetic, you do have to be careful of certain fruits (I learned that years ago when I first was diagnosed as being a diabetic) and once you learn by trial and error which fruits affect you worse for raising blood-sugar readings, you go from there.

Watermelon was killer, same with strawberries. (My own personal study)

Now, what I do is stop at a Mexican fruit vendor and get a mixed bowl with 3 different kinds of melon, a little pineapple, mango and orange with lime juice and a little chili powder. Very satisfying dessert.
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Old 13-06-2017, 03:52 PM
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There are no studies that have shown fruit causes spikes to blood sugar the same way artificial sugar does. Regardless of how much fruit was consumed during the studies.

I myself eat a ton of fruit. I mean A ton. Most days I will eat an entire bag of grapes. As well a pineapple and other fruit depending on how I feel. On recent blood work that I had done, back in April, my glucose was at 103. Which is within healthy ranges.

If you want to gain weight, up your calorie intake. As well as add in healthy fats, such as nuts. Peanut butter can help.

Yeah, I feel natural sugar doesn't ever effect me negatively, but if I have added refined sugar I'll get acne and my stomach will always feel upset.

Thanks for your post! I will up my calorie intake.
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Old 13-06-2017, 11:03 PM
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If you're a diabetic, you do have to be careful of certain fruits (I learned that years ago when I first was diagnosed as being a diabetic) and once you learn by trial and error which fruits affect you worse for raising blood-sugar readings, you go from there.

Watermelon was killer, same with strawberries. (My own personal study)

Now, what I do is stop at a Mexican fruit vendor and get a mixed bowl with 3 different kinds of melon, a little pineapple, mango and orange with lime juice and a little chili powder. Very satisfying dessert.

I am guessing that is from experimentation of various fruits over the years as a diabetic that you noticed the difference in raising blood-sugar levels? I think it comes down to a certain type of sugar that is more abundant in some fruits. It might be fructose? I've never noticed the difference, but then, I am not diabetic, so I can not say for sure.

I did recently read an article about a study with mice, and how intermittent fasting has been shown to help the pancreas regenerate itself to help with insulin production again.
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Old 13-06-2017, 11:06 PM
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Yeah, I feel natural sugar doesn't ever effect me negatively, but if I have added refined sugar I'll get acne and my stomach will always feel upset.

Thanks for your post! I will up my calorie intake.

Yeah, I have not noticed a difference other than if I eat a ton of like water based fruit, such as grapes, I will use the bathroom more. But no other issues with it. My last blood work all came back really good.

If your diet is mostly just fruits and veggies, it may be hard to gain weight. As both of those are not really calorie heavy.
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Old 13-06-2017, 11:54 PM
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I have cut out all refined sugar from my diet.

But, I know fruits have natural sugar and I wonder what kind of effect it has if I eat too many fruits?

I know sugar is detrimental to overall health and we only need roughly 25g (or possibly less) every single day, but we know fruits are healthy because of the vitamins and minerals they contain.

I want to start eating a ton of dates so I can gain weight, but one date is 16g of sugar which is about all you really need for one day.

Right now I feel that no matter how much sugar I take in it won't really be all that detrimental to me, so long as I take it in from fruits, however I want to know your perspective at this time.

If you don't have any health issues like dodgy blood sugar management etc, or any other health problem which means you have to watch your diet, then I would say eating fruit is fine. Maybe just two or three decent servings of fruit per day. I wouldn't worry too much about the sugar content of fruit as this is not as unhealthy as people think....so long as you don't overdo it, obviously. The only caveat is -never brush your teeth straight after eating fruit, as this damages your teeth!
You need a balanced diet, that means balanced amounts of most heathy foods.
I doubt you'd see significant weight gain from eating fruit.
You'll need healthy carbs and proteins to gain weight, and healthy fats also, such as avocados etc. And eat four meals a day if you can. Try to rest after you've eaten, and make sure you get proper sleep.
Don't shun carbs like potatoes and pasta, and rice etc because they are okay, if eaten as part of a healthy balanced diet. Quinoa is good because it contains both carbs and protein. Sweet corn is good too.

Fatty protein foods like peanut butter and Tahini are good. Why not experiment with making your own Tahini/chocolate ice cream? Wow!
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Old 14-06-2017, 12:02 AM
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I am guessing that is from experimentation of various fruits over the years as a diabetic that you noticed the difference in raising blood-sugar levels? I think it comes down to a certain type of sugar that is more abundant in some fruits. It might be fructose? I've never noticed the difference, but then, I am not diabetic, so I can not say for sure.

I did recently read an article about a study with mice, and how intermittent fasting has been shown to help the pancreas regenerate itself to help with insulin production again.

Actually, it was a matter of weeks and months during which I saw what fruits were a no-no for me at the time I first learned I was diabetic. I'd eat the fruit and test myself about 4 X a day. It takes continuous, consistent testing to come out with clearer results. I was pretty het up (angry XD) to discover I 'got' diabetes, so I was unbelievably on top of it to steer away from the kind of life my grandmother lived - because she had an impossible time trying to 'eat right' but she had to take the insulin shots every day and she lost both legs above the knee a couple years before she passed at 69.

anyway, this thread isn't about me, so I'll beg off for now. Best of luck, Rokazulu.
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