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Old 26-07-2017, 02:53 AM
FallingLeaves FallingLeaves is offline
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Originally Posted by H:O:R:A:C:E
i like what you've said.
imagine that i'm a "left-hander". the things i do are as a left-hander. then,
at some point, i get nerve damage and can't use my left hand very well
anymore... i need to use the right. suddenly, people start treating me as
a "right-hander", even though i know myself to be a lefty... just unable to
function that way presently. what i'm saying is that what other people
think or expect of me has nothing to do with my self defined identity.
i suppose the desire to be a female is different than the desire to
be treated as a female. the first is up to the individual (in my argument),
the second is up to 'the others' to determine. i just don't see how it's
possible to require that free-will beings act/behave in accordance to my
desires. i'd like for people to genuinely care for themselves, each other,
and the world -- but i can't force them to do so.

yeah and that is the main reason I don't reach for the shape shifting (although I've apparently done it before). I've been way way way down the road of trying to get others to treat me the way I want to be treated and really, it isn't a good road to be on.

And even this whole thing about 'i've got to have the right body so that people will treat me the right way' is just too much for me. It is very upsetting because I go to a lot of effort to get it, then it gets taken away again and I have to go to even more effort to get it back. When really I don't much like the trying to get it it is the having it that is what is desired.

right now I'm into letting go of stuff that just hurts... so... guess I just cant have what I want *shrugs*
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Old 26-07-2017, 07:15 AM
H:O:R:A:C:E H:O:R:A:C:E is offline
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Originally Posted by FallingLeaves
right now I'm into letting go of stuff that just hurts... so... guess I just cant have what I want *shrugs*
as i see it, letting go of painful things is a good strategy FallingLeaves.
as to what you want:
do you [really] know what that is?
you wanna be happy, right?
you've decided that attaining "X" will cause happiness... right?
you struggle and strive for "X", and don't get it, and don't get happy... right?
let go of the pain.
let go of that middleman "X", which doesn't hold your happiness anyways.
undecide that your happiness is dependent on that thing you've thought
that you'd wanted... just point your compass towards 'happy' and move
in that direction... if "X" is something which you'd actually enjoy to experience,
it'll be along the pathway of happiness that your internal compass points you to.
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Old 31-07-2017, 11:14 PM
FallingLeaves FallingLeaves is offline
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strangely enough, I'm no longer sure that 'freedom from suffering' is as good a goal as everyone thinks... from where I sit it seems like a lot of mistakes have been made simply because people love to hate suffering...

not that it matters, all I know about it really is that if I chase around after happiness like everyone else is I'm likely to get killed (again).

Personally, the only thing I really want is to have my life back, whatever it is that that means.
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Old 14-08-2017, 10:10 PM
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my dad usd 2 say ths he did
we all brn 2 liv
we all brn 2 die we e
we all dyin it cud tak yrs it cud
dream jo

i dream dreams all dreams
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