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Old 26-05-2017, 02:57 PM
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well that's all relative...

the ideology is warm and fuzzy i'll give you that much

And your original post is all relative, my friend. What is your point with that?

The ideology I gave wasn't really all warm and fuzzy. . .but yes, what I just stated there is relative. (The ideology simply says, as its basis, that people create/manifest based upon their core beliefs about themselves.)

What you're doing is also a form of affirming desire/belief, and you're basically claiming not to be doing it, warning others that it is a "waste."

You are also posting messages that are "all relative," yet are telling me that my post was relative.

Again, what really is your point, my friend?
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Old 26-05-2017, 03:00 PM
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i guess it depends on what sort of help they're looking for

search and ye shall not always find

"Seek and you shall always find what you subconsciously believe you are worthy to find."

THAT is essentially what Jesus meant. Every action has a corresponding reaction. This is basic physics.
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Old 26-05-2017, 03:05 PM
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I didn't state that affirmations have a 100% success rate, in the sense that the person will receive what they think they want. When I stated 100%, I was obviously referring and defining "affirmations" in a different manner than you, and I gave clear examples of my understanding of what affirming really is.

Your idea of "success rate" is based upon what you see and hear with your eyes in a very materialistic sense, instead of a deep intuitive understanding. I stated that affirmations work by giving people a FEELING. That part you glossed over and didn't really catch.

Affirming is really about creating an internal FEELING. Affirmations always work because they work in conjunction with a person's beliefs. I never said, for example, that a person who affirms, "I have a million dollars" will get their million dollars through affirming it in that manner. The person who affirms such a thing WILL receive 100% exactly what they inwardly FEEL they deserve, based upon their predominant beliefs and self-perception of themselves.

THIS is how affirmations work, my friend. NOT how you highly erroneously assume they would, if true (which is how many, many people tend to assume). Your definition/understanding/perception of "affirmations" is very narrow.

This is largely why you feel so disillusioned and angry about them, on a quest to tell the world, so to speak, how they "don't work." I suggest expanding your definition/understanding of what affirmations essentially are.

Well, you spoke of success, let's see how successful you are in convincing people here that they "don't work," when MOST of the people who post in this forum category would tell you that they have indeed had some success with using affirmations (and this is not mere conjecture).

If you actually read many of the posts in this category, this alone will show you how little your negative input about affirmations would convince anyone of your "truth" about them in this community.

where is the love? why are you being so negative?

i'm not here to convince anyone of anything... my belief is that affirmations don't work... and i don't see how that makes it an affirmation

and just because my belief is different to yours doesn't make it negative... you have simply framed it to be that way to force your argument
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Old 26-05-2017, 03:12 PM
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Actually I am enjoying my interacting with you, disconnected. The love is in my heart.

You are caught up in words. Affirmations, by the way, are not about words. They are about feeling/vibration. Everything is energy. Again, basic physics at work here.

You are entitled to your belief, of course. Remember, you were the one who came online and started a thread telling people what NOT to do, disregarding the fact that most people here OBVIOUSLY feel positive about using affirmations.

You think what you did is positive? Be real. It's all fine, though. I am sharing insights just as you are. We are equals.
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Old 26-05-2017, 03:13 PM
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If I decide I wish to feel warm and fuzzy, I can pretty much conjure up that reality. It might take snuggling in a blanket, but it can be done. In a sense, that's all awareness is saying with the comment: "The real power of an affirmation is to give a person a feeling of well-being in the moment."

The part of that comment you seem to be struggling with has more to do with this I think: "It propels people to act and create in loving and highly beneficial ways."

If you're unwilling to concede that life is meant to be a conscious exploration of loving action, for the benefit to all, then of course you will oppose any thoughts or beliefs along those lines. So this whole thread and dialogue isn't about affirmations and whether they're true. What it is, is revealing, via your own words, your intent and the actions you take, and whether they're loving and of benefit. Are they? Do you think they are?

i believe "for the benefit to all" is smart marketing... unfortunately the facade is exploited for tyranny and absolutely atrocious behaviour by many preaching the whole "conscious exploration of loving action"... i'm not pointing the finger at you... simply an observation of the world... yes i believe my actions are loving and for benefit... otherwise i wouldn't bother commenting
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Old 26-05-2017, 03:14 PM
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And your original post is all relative, my friend. What is your point with that?

The ideology I gave wasn't really all warm and fuzzy. . .but yes, what I just stated there is relative. (The ideology simply says, as its basis, that people create/manifest based upon their core beliefs about themselves.)

What you're doing is also a form of affirming desire/belief, and you're basically claiming not to be doing it, warning others that it is a "waste."

You are also posting messages that are "all relative," yet are telling me that my post was relative.

Again, what really is your point, my friend?

the point is that affirmations don't work as per original post
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Old 26-05-2017, 03:16 PM
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"Seek and you shall always find what you subconsciously believe you are worthy to find."

THAT is essentially what Jesus meant. Every action has a corresponding reaction. This is basic physics.

do you really believe that?
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Old 26-05-2017, 03:17 PM
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i believe "for the benefit to all" is smart marketing... unfortunately the facade is exploited for tyranny and absolutely atrocious behaviour by many preaching the whole "conscious exploration of loving action"... i'm not pointing the finger at you... simply an observation of the world... yes i believe my actions are loving and for benefit... otherwise i wouldn't bother commenting

That is a much more honest approach. Getting right to it, instead of posting exaggerated messages about a practice not working. Your initial post lacked that honesty. It was like a short rant, without deep substance.

I kept responding in this thread, so as to see more depth of what you are sharing, and I sincerely believe and feel that you have much depth to share.
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Old 26-05-2017, 03:17 PM
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Actually I am enjoying my interacting with you, disconnected. The love is in my heart.

You are caught up in words. Affirmations, by the way, are not about words. They are about feeling/vibration. Everything is energy. Again, basic physics at work here.

You are entitled to your belief, of course. Remember, you were the one who came online and started a thread telling people what NOT to do, disregarding the fact that most people here OBVIOUSLY feel positive about using affirmations.

You think what you did is positive? Be real. It's all fine, though. I am sharing insights just as you are. We are equals.

hey if you're being honest then i love you all the more for it
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Old 26-05-2017, 03:19 PM
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do you really believe that?

Not only do I believe it, I practice it and know it works well for me, every day.
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