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Old 07-05-2017, 05:37 PM
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God did not quite say his name was I AM.

God, in the sense of Yahveh, did not say his name was I AM. He said his name was Yahveh or the Tetragrammaton. People today still ponder what this name means. But it is clear that it is not simply I AM.

I'm with Judaism on this one. I think I AM is a far too simplistic name for something as articulate and ingenious as God. The term I AM just oversimplifies God and makes Him sound like a narcissist.
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Old 07-05-2017, 10:05 PM
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It is traditionally associated with God's essence, revealed to the people intimately in their hearts...and is associated with the divine attribute of mercy. Often the name is associated with being, sometimes translated as I am that I am...

Typically the term Adonai is and has been used...which implied a personal relationship for all (the lord, who is my lord and your lord...). Interestingly, in the modern era, "God" is sometimes used instead of Adonai, the thought being it's a more personal and less hierarchical term...and I think there is something there.

IMO, it's really all about our relationship to the divine, and how we balance the the love and the awe involved.

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Old 17-05-2017, 07:49 PM
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Or...

I AM that...All things.
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Old 18-05-2017, 12:05 AM
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'I AM'...haha, reminds me of a little boy that just realizes he exists!
Blurts out with Joy ...I Exist!....I'm Alive!...I AM!


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Old 18-05-2017, 10:40 PM
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Or...

I AM that...All things.

Yes...Each and All, both this and that.
The fractal God

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Old 18-05-2017, 10:46 PM
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'I AM'...haha, reminds me of a little boy that just realizes he exists!
Blurts out with Joy ...I Exist!....I'm Alive!...I AM!



Why did this remind me of Sally Field's "You like me!...You really, really like me!!!" ???

It's the "blurts out with joy" part, right?
And what's the right answer here? Yes, there is a right answer
and YES is always the answer

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Old 01-06-2017, 02:30 PM
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'I AM'...haha, reminds me of a little boy that just realizes he exists!
Blurts out with Joy ...I Exist!....I'm Alive!...I AM!



Matthew 18:3
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"Then he said, "I tell all of you with certainty, unless you change and become like little children, you will never get into the kingdom of heaven."

Psalms 46:10 --- "Be still and know.....THAT......I AM ......God."


Perhaps...just perhaps...that little child-like boy, whom you mentioned in your post, is closer to the Reality than the scholars who discuss their profound thoughts and "names for God" which appear to be at least one level removed from the Reality.
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God, in the sense of Yahveh, did not say his name was I AM. He said his name was Yahveh or the Tetragrammaton. People today still ponder what this name means. But it is clear that it is not simply I AM.

I'm with Judaism on this one. I think I AM is a far too simplistic name for something as articulate and ingenious as God. The term I AM just oversimplifies God and makes Him sound like a narcissist.

Tell me more about this "He" who "said his name was Yahveh or the Tetragammaton" and please elaborate on the frequently quoted "I am...THAT...I AM".

I would like to hear more of your thoughts on this subject. While you say that "the term I AM just oversimplifies God", is it possible that you are over-complicating things ?
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Often simplicity lies within the complexity of truth... or the compexity lies in the simplicity... yada ya cliche town


'I am' or 'I am that I am'


I think it's perfect.
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Often simplicity lies within the complexity of truth... or the compexity lies in the simplicity... yada ya cliche town


'I am' or 'I am that I am'


I think it's perfect.

I too think that it's perfect !
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