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Old 15-02-2017, 05:36 AM
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Mantak Chia

I'm doing some research about our energy system, interpreting Mantak Chia's writings about Big Dipper Taoist Neidan (inner alchemy) through the eyes of Tantra. I was just wondering whether anyone here has studied his teachings or cares to share about their practice - working with jing-chi-shen.
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Old 15-02-2017, 12:34 PM
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Mantak Chia is considered to be a dangerous energy teacher amongst daoists, especially in regard to male retention. There are many stories of damage caused by following his practices.
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Old 16-02-2017, 03:34 AM
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Mantak Chia is considered to be a dangerous energy teacher amongst daoists, especially in regard to male retention. There are many stories of damage caused by following his practices.

Wow! Dangerous - how? What damage is he accused of? You can PM me if you want to.
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Old 16-02-2017, 04:31 AM
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This is a brief discussion of issues related to Mantak Chia, there are countless others as well. Thanks for being open to hearing this. http://www.thedaobums.com/topic/9450...-it-did-to-me/
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Old 16-02-2017, 07:48 PM
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omg, poor guy - what he put himself through...

Well this idea of "semen retention" is in yoga as well. This is not something I ever researched nor care to research.

The real teaching should be about retaining the subtle essence (the "lust") and bringing that energy of lust higher up into any of the chakras above the sexual chakra. So it's about the subtle (invisible) life force energy in our body NOT the physical fluids. If we bring that energy to the navel area we have more vitality for the body. If we bring it all the way up to the head area, we get intoxicated. I've experienced these things myself so I know what I'm talking about. This is an advanced practice, not for laypeople and I wouldn't recommend experimenting with it without a genuine Teacher who can guide you. First of all you need to be able to sense subtle energy (jing, chi and shen) to be able to do this - and to know what it means to be centered in higher consciousness. Otherwise it's not going to work. In my case these things happened spontaneously in the divine presence of my Teacher because his chi-shen is so powerful and beautiful - but I am learning now how to transmute my energy deliberately.

A proper Teacher would never enforce celibacy or suggest that anything be repressed or suppressed. Do-it-yourself mystical practices can be dangerous in any case, but people will try anyway and learn the hard way.

I am more interested in Mantak Chia because of the microcosmic orbit practice that I do, and also how he talks about the lunar constellations that I'm researching. As far as those things are concerned a lot of what he says makes sense to me. I'm sad if he is leading people astray with the other stuff, or if he is not explaining things well and people are misinterpreting and then "trying this at home" when they don't know what they're doing.

I'm asking in this thread where I can get more information about inner alchemy practice and about how the lunar constellations relate to that.
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Interesting and have you tried it?
Or are you looking to find a suitable teacher first?
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