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Old 14-05-2016, 12:46 PM
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I've only assisted a couple of souls "cross over" so perhaps my experience isn't as broad as some others who have responded.

From what I've seen, the only thing holding back a spirit is either fear or love. Fear can be fear the "judgment" they believe awaits them, or fear can be of the unknown or of being all alone. Some are so attached to someone in the physical realm that they just can't bear to leave.

I believe it's important to reassure spirit that moving forward is not a one-way ticket: they can come back to visit loved ones. Spirits do that all the time.

One young lady we helped move along was terrified and alone... until we told her to call her mother to come help. As soon as she thought of her mother, the mother came to comfort and escort the young lady across.

Another young lady passed as the result of drug use, and was so scared of what awaited "people like her" on the other side. She refused to enter the light, avoided guides who tried to coax her to go forward. I spoke to her mother and found that his girl had major trust issues, especially of males. So the mother asked the girl's friend, who had passed a few years earlier, to come to her aid. Sure enough, once the young lady saw her friend her fears vanished and she was able to muster the courage to move forward.

From what I've seen, most of the soul growth, life review, and self-examination takes place on the other side, not while spirit lingers in the physical realm. The recently departed spirit, especially of one who passed under negative circumstances like suicide, would not be in any condition to benefit from a life review at that point. They would still be caught up in the transition itself, the sudden ripping away of the world they knew.

If I were in your situation, I would ask this spirit why he feels you are the one to help him. The reason isn't actually to understand his reason, but to get a chance to size up his sincerity. A spirit who wanted to cross over would normally have already done so. There is no magic to it. It's the natural, normal progression from life to afterlife.

So why is he lingering? Is he truly lost and confused and scared, or is he some sort of trickster spirit just out to have some fun, playing on your helpful nature?

Assuming he is sincere, talk with him to find out what he is afraid of and who he trusts enough to go with them to the other side. After a chat, suggest he call that trusted person and help them visualize that person answering the call. Often that trusted person is their mother, grandparent, or a dear friend.

Then just send spirit along with love, and maybe wish them a fine journey.

Spirit will have plenty of time to review this life and come to understand their successes, failures, and both good and bad decisions. On the other side. Where time isn't as we know it, and where there are loving kind souls to help them understand.
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Old 14-05-2016, 03:51 PM
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Good luck cahill - I don't have any advice as I have never gone that deep but keep yourself safe.

Let us know how it works out - I wish him safe and peaceful passage.

Thank you Moon Glow. I have some very useful information for this thread after reading suggestions here. And I unraveled the mistery to the seemingly strange creepy malet spirit we spoke of in the other thread. Or atleast some light was shed.

Just like anything else this stuff can be trial and error and one does in fact need to find their own way of carrying out tasks such as this.

I've said before, spirits know very well what we are capable of whether we are aware of it or not. Self doubt keeps us from realizing our potential. With that said, I conducted a little test.

Moon Glow, the sneaky one is a bit of a shapeshifter. Shadow person from what I gather.

In the beginning I was compelled to work on visualizations. Paying close attention to vividness of colors I used. And so now, my trance like state can often come instantly and colors I visualize are blinding bright. They even hum.

Last night at 2 am, the busy hour, I took pieces of suggestions here and added a few of the things I felt would help. So I visualized a door opening (my bathroom door actually) and then the light. I have seen the little boy spirit here manifest in total light. So bright it pure pierced the air around him. I've described this as a LED light during amassive powersurge. So this is what I used. I took that light embeddin my memory and put it in that door. My body started to spasm. I was seeing entities attempt to stop this. They were surrounding me. Trying to take my focus so it would make the door disappear. It's my belief that some lower levelbad guys do not respond to jesus' name because they respond to the book of Revelation and not jesus before resurrection. Jesus stated that jes u s would no longer be his name. But called him lamb of God. His name was written in the book of life but was not disclosed. So I visualized him coming out of the door. I was seeing black, orange and red blobs. Plus I saw the wall where I had the door swell and contract. Entities walking through it.

I'm not sure the young man got through as of yet. Time will tell. The sneaky one is trying to keep them where they are.
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Old 16-05-2016, 04:11 PM
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Thank you Moon Glow. I have some very useful information for this thread after reading suggestions here. And I unraveled the mistery to the seemingly strange creepy malet spirit we spoke of in the other thread. Or atleast some light was shed.

Just like anything else this stuff can be trial and error and one does in fact need to find their own way of carrying out tasks such as this.

I've said before, spirits know very well what we are capable of whether we are aware of it or not. Self doubt keeps us from realizing our potential. With that said, I conducted a little test.

Moon Glow, the sneaky one is a bit of a shapeshifter. Shadow person from what I gather.

In the beginning I was compelled to work on visualizations. Paying close attention to vividness of colors I used. And so now, my trance like state can often come instantly and colors I visualize are blinding bright. They even hum.

Last night at 2 am, the busy hour, I took pieces of suggestions here and added a few of the things I felt would help. So I visualized a door opening (my bathroom door actually) and then the light. I have seen the little boy spirit here manifest in total light. So bright it pure pierced the air around him. I've described this as a LED light during amassive powersurge. So this is what I used. I took that light embeddin my memory and put it in that door. My body started to spasm. I was seeing entities attempt to stop this. They were surrounding me. Trying to take my focus so it would make the door disappear. It's my belief that some lower levelbad guys do not respond to jesus' name because they respond to the book of Revelation and not jesus before resurrection. Jesus stated that jes u s would no longer be his name. But called him lamb of God. His name was written in the book of life but was not disclosed. So I visualized him coming out of the door. I was seeing black, orange and red blobs. Plus I saw the wall where I had the door swell and contract. Entities walking through it.

I'm not sure the young man got through as of yet. Time will tell. The sneaky one is trying to keep them where they are.

Oh wow - well that is good news that you tried helping - I feel like you aren't as "heavy" as before... when I was reading this I felt a lot more at ease than in the other posts...

I hope you are getting to a place of peace for you and your whole family.

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Old 16-05-2016, 05:13 PM
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Cahill i resonnate much with Blue Tiger answer. Actually i don't have real personal experience with that topic but i know a woman who is very knowledgeable and who helps dead souls to go to the light everyday since a long time. She's clairvoyant and can see them and talk to them.

Like Blue Tiger said it's because of fear of judgement or love for another physical person that dead souls don't go to the light. There is often an other reason which is that some dead souls don't even know they have left their body and think they're still living as incarnated people and are angry that others don't answer them when they talk. Angry that others mentions they are dead when they know they are still very alive and don't understand why their loved one are crying at their loss.

It's very important to help these dead souls to go to the light for their own evolution and for the well being of the incarnated people because these dead souls usually live in the aura or the energy of another person and absorb a part of this energy, they need it because they aren't connected to the source. This often cause fatigue, angry behaviors, bad mood or even physical and psychological illnesses to the incarnated person which can be severe sometimes but they don't have any malevolent intentions they just go where they can find energy they can use to live and they often just want to continue to live with their beloved husband, wife, son, daugther...

This woman says that if a dead soul come to you it's likely because it's a part of your work to help it going to the light. You can do that by being love and light, calling higher beings to help and telling the dead soul that their is nothing to fear in the light, he/she will be taken care of and will continue his evolution and will be awaited by loving ones. Some still think they still have a physical body so you must tell them they physical body is dead but they, as a being are still very alive. If they don't believe you you can ask them to perform a test, for exemple to move a physical object in the room and they will fail obviously.

For the dead souls who think they can help loved one in their physical body, tell them they aren't doing any good by trying to help the person, and aren't able to do that efficiently and that it's best to go to the light.

A book the woman advised is "The Unquiet Dead: A Psychologist Treats Spirit Possession" by Edith Fiore.
I haven't read the book yet and don't resonate with the term "possession" and i'm sure the woman who teached us doesn't resonate with this term either but she said it explain a lot about a very widespread reality and that if more people knowed about this we could heal many many people with so called psychiatric and mental disorders.

Hope this help... One good thing to do if you often see dead souls in your life is to raise your vibration, be love and light and know there is nothing to fear.
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Old 16-05-2016, 05:20 PM
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No one can help this young man until he faces himself and his life and goes within. Guides will not help him until he helps himself. No one will just hold a magic wand and get rid of all negative aspects, etc.. that is not how it works in 3d or beyond. Most mediums do not understand this crucial part. No one just sees any truth/ light automatically. It has to be worked on just like here. There is no soul fragmens, only the ego which still stays and must be confronted. There is no difference with here on our side except he no longer has his physical body, no one can see him so he does no know who he is anymore. He needs to find his true self. This is what truly going to the light means.

From what i've learn, a dead soul have free will like a physical person yet they often need help from us to go to the light. I think it's after having come to the light that the dead soul can face himself and his life. Often dead souls who can't go to the light by themselves do not have enough real spiritual understanding and are often afraid because of old religious concepts like "purgatory" or are the souls of strong atheist who don't believe in an life after death.
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Old 16-05-2016, 08:15 PM
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In "Ghost Whisperer" with Jennifer Love Hewitt such things are showed.
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Old 17-05-2016, 12:07 AM
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From what i've learn, a dead soul have free will like a physical person yet they often need help from us to go to the light. I think it's after having come to the light that the dead soul can face himself and his life. Often dead souls who can't go to the light by themselves do not have enough real spiritual understanding and are often afraid because of old religious concepts like "purgatory" or are the souls of strong atheist who don't believe in an life after death.

Its all about higher vibrations and being faced with oneself when outside ones body (the vibration is higher). A person who finds himself still alive freaks out if they have no spiritual understanding. Even if they have a spiritual understanding they freak out and dont always know what to do but eventually figure it out. They absolutely must know who they truly are beyond the density of 3D which distorts this. They can ask for help if someone hears them but no one can help if they cannot help themself first. They have to find the truth of who they really are themselves and this is not automatic. It means they have loads of inner work to do to find that inner light. Most people dont do this inner work in 3D and are then faced with themselves after. I have a very deep understanding of how this works as an energy healer and medium. Through my own inner soul work and spiritual awakening which put me in contact with my guide.
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Old 18-05-2016, 04:19 AM
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Thank you Moon Glow. I have some very useful information for this thread after reading suggestions here. And I unraveled the mistery to the seemingly strange creepy malet spirit we spoke of in the other thread. Or atleast some light was shed.

Just like anything else this stuff can be trial and error and one does in fact need to find their own way of carrying out tasks such as this.

I've said before, spirits know very well what we are capable of whether we are aware of it or not. Self doubt keeps us from realizing our potential. With that said, I conducted a little test.

Moon Glow, the sneaky one is a bit of a shapeshifter. Shadow person from what I gather.

In the beginning I was compelled to work on visualizations. Paying close attention to vividness of colors I used. And so now, my trance like state can often come instantly and colors I visualize are blinding bright. They even hum.

Last night at 2 am, the busy hour, I took pieces of suggestions here and added a few of the things I felt would help. So I visualized a door opening (my bathroom door actually) and then the light. I have seen the little boy spirit here manifest in total light. So bright it pure pierced the air around him. I've described this as a LED light during amassive powersurge. So this is what I used. I took that light embeddin my memory and put it in that door. My body started to spasm. I was seeing entities attempt to stop this. They were surrounding me. Trying to take my focus so it would make the door disappear. It's my belief that some lower levelbad guys do not respond to jesus' name because they respond to the book of Revelation and not jesus before resurrection. Jesus stated that jes u s would no longer be his name. But called him lamb of God. His name was written in the book of life but was not disclosed. So I visualized him coming out of the door. I was seeing black, orange and red blobs. Plus I saw the wall where I had the door swell and contract. Entities walking through it.

I'm not sure the young man got through as of yet. Time will tell. The sneaky one is trying to keep them where they are.

This certainly sounds like massive progress! I could not offer any advice since I do not have any experience with crossing people over, either (and my abilities are not good enough to do so). I saw--well not physically, obviously-- the young man you described, red-faced and crying, breathing fast and looking downward, almost hyperventilating as if he's about to do something important. So I feel you've at least majorly expedited everything.
Regarding the shadowy guy, I wonder if he's one of the main entities that not want any good doorways opening. Or if he actually represents all of them, as if they're a collective of beings that can appear as one entity when they choose to. (I wonder where they came from originally.. The ones you said gathered around trying to stop you. Land spirits?)
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