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Old 17-02-2019, 06:09 PM
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We don’t meditate to see heaven, but to end suffering.

Don’t be attached to visions or lights in meditation, don’t rise or fall with them. What’s so great about brightness? My flashlight has it. It can’t help us rid ourselves of our suffering.

- Ajahn Chah

If I never glimpsed heaven I would never now how much I was suffering.

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If you want a chicken to be a duck, and a duck to be a chicken, you will suffer.

Ajahn Chah
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Old 17-02-2019, 09:28 PM
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Peace within oneself is to be found in the same place as agitation and suffering. It’s not found in a forest or on a hill top, nor is it given by a teacher. Where you experience suffering, you can also find freedom from suffering. Trying to run away from suffering is actually to run towards it.

If you let go a little, you will have a little peace. If you let go a lot, you will have a lot of peace. If you let go completely, you will have complete peace.

Ajahn Chah
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Old 17-02-2019, 09:30 PM
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If I never glimpsed heaven I would never now how much I was suffering.

And yet, there are many legitimate traditions, Buddhism included, where countless people have moved away from suffering.

Just because you do not understand, doesn't mean it is wrong.

JL
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Old 19-02-2019, 07:02 AM
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We don’t meditate to see heaven, but to end suffering.

Don’t be attached to visions or lights in meditation, don’t rise or fall with them. What’s so great about brightness? My flashlight has it. It can’t help us rid ourselves of our suffering.

- Ajahn Chah

Thank you for sharing. I remember getting a copy of Ajahn Sumedho's book, The Way It Is, during the most intense period of suffering in my life. I read it as there was nothing else left in my life and i was sleeping on someone's floor and was in an intense state of pure elation and depression. I read it each day and meditated for a few weeks at least. Looking back perhaps I should have went to Amaravati and become a monk. Anyway here I am still as crazy as ever. Sadhu ! Thank you for the opportunity.
In relation to the thread, this was a period of very ordinary suffering !!
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Old 19-02-2019, 02:30 PM
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And yet, there are many legitimate traditions, Buddhism included, where countless people have moved away from suffering.

Just because you do not understand, doesn't mean it is wrong.

JL

There are many thing I do not understand.
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Old 20-02-2019, 05:11 PM
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Thank you for sharing. I remember getting a copy of Ajahn Sumedho's book, The Way It Is, during the most intense period of suffering in my life. I read it as there was nothing else left in my life and i was sleeping on someone's floor and was in an intense state of pure elation and depression. I read it each day and meditated for a few weeks at least. Looking back perhaps I should have went to Amaravati and become a monk. Anyway here I am still as crazy as ever. Sadhu ! Thank you for the opportunity.
In relation to the thread, this was a period of very ordinary suffering !!

Ajahn Sumedho is great.

Thanks for sharing that..

Yes, suffering. I know that path well.

Sadhu
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Old 20-02-2019, 10:25 PM
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the path to enlightenment is to pay attention to the ordinary qualities of our likes and dislikes, our loves and attachments.How do these things work and how do they affect us? How do they obstruct us and bind us? How can we be free from them? It's through questioning and seeing clearly that we find our way through. This is the path of knowing..

Knowing oneself and seeing clearly does not mean attaining some ethereal height of renunciation. One uses one's circumstances for understanding oneself. That's the same thing as the aspiration for freedom. It's very ordinary. We tend to look at the Buddha or other great spiritual teachers and believe that we are separate from them. That is not what the Buddha taught. The Dhamma is imminent here and now. It is present for everyone's access and realization. This is the legacy of the Buddha.

Ajahn Pasanno
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