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Old 20-05-2020, 09:37 AM
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what about the most famous of all!!!

Hail Mary full of grace the Lord is with you
Blessed are you among women and blessed is the fruit of your womb
Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners now and at the hour of death

This mantra brings the mind back to the mystery when all around is fallen into ruin, Mary guides you back to her son. Whatever else the Catholic church is faulty in it's not in their understanding of Mary she is the best thing they have by far. Protestants get Jesus right but totally lack an appreciation for Mary and the mystery of the incarnation.
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Old 20-05-2020, 09:45 AM
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what about the most famous of all!!!

Hail Mary full of grace the Lord is with you
Blessed are you among women and blessed is the fruit of your womb
Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners now and at the hour of death

This mantra brings the mind back to the mystery when all around is fallen into ruin, Mary guides you back to her son. Whatever else the Catholic church is faulty in it's not in their understanding of Mary she is the best thing they have by far. Protestants get Jesus right but totally lack an appreciation for Mary and the mystery of the incarnation.


Interesting how you have personally changed the words...
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Old 20-05-2020, 10:33 AM
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I think that is really nonsense. Buddha Name recitation is a common practice of the common people in much of Asia and is practiced throughout the day.
In Shin Buddhism, to which a majority of Japanese belong to it is the virtually the only practice to get to enlightenment.

A form of hypnosis.
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Old 20-05-2020, 12:16 PM
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Interesting how you have personally changed the words...

No, i did not change the words, this is from memory so if you see a difference it is from memory. as far as i know these are the words

So what is interesting is Mary, not what I said
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Old 20-05-2020, 01:25 PM
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No, i did not change the words, this is from memory so if you see a difference it is from memory. as far as i know these are the words

So what is interesting is Mary, not what I said


Actually my idea of the wording is not from memory alone but Roman Catholic Books of Prayer. I have never heard/read a different version before today.
Personally I prefer it sung in Latin but to each their own



Supposedly...... 1495.
The oldest written copy.


Áve Marī́a, grā́tiā plḗna,
Dóminus tḗcum.
Benedícta tū in muliḗribus,
et benedíctus frū́ctus véntris túī, Iḗsūs.
Sā́ncta Marī́a, Mā́ter Déī,
ṓrā prō nṓbīs peccātṓribus,
nunc et in hṓrā mórtis nóstrae. Āmēn.

Hail Mary, full of grace,
the Lord is with thee.
Blessed art thou amongst women,
and blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus.
Holy Mary, Mother of God,
pray for us sinners,
now and at the hour of our death. Amen
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Old 20-05-2020, 01:38 PM
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well, if you can't remember a mantra then what is the point of it :)
I'm still waiting for you to tell me how what i wrote is different, since you want to talk about some perceived difference which i've already explained and not the meaning of it, i'm wondering if the subject of Mary is what you are trying to avoid? Why not talk about the beauty of this prayer instead? That is what is productive. Why go for the least important thing in discussing it?
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Old 20-05-2020, 01:55 PM
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well, if you can't remember a mantra then what is the point of it :)
I'm still waiting for you to tell me how what i wrote is different, since you want to talk about some perceived difference which i've already explained and not the meaning of it, i'm wondering if the subject of Mary is what you are trying to avoid? Why not talk about the beauty of this prayer instead? That is what is productive. Why go for the least important thing in discussing it?


I can't see anywhere saying I can't remember a Mantra
I see Prayer and Mantra as being different. The difference in your wording is obvious if you read what you wrote then read the Roman Catholic version. I don't have any aversion to Mary at all and didn't notice you wanted to discuss about Her I presumed you were talking about Mantras...
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Old 20-05-2020, 02:52 PM
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This could serve as either a mantra or prayer.
Don't ya think?

"Peace be with you."
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Old 20-05-2020, 02:59 PM
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This could serve as either a mantra or prayer.
Don't ya think?

"Peace be with you."





et quoque apud te.....
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Old 20-05-2020, 02:59 PM
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This could serve as either a mantra or prayer.
Don't ya think?

"Peace be with you."
I don't think so because this is outward directed.
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