Psychological healing – looking for methods and practices

[LadyMay]

Therapy! I know you probably hear it all the time, but therapy has honestly been the best for me. Years of trying to fix my own issues with no success, and a therapist helped more in a few months than I managed in years.

[WildHairedWoman]

Originally Posted by BlackCat

Hi,

I won’t bore you with the details, to sum up I relatively recently came to the conclusion that a poor upbringing has still a strong effect on every aspect of my life today. So I came here today looking for recommendations to practices that have a healing effect on the mind.

I don’t mean like meditation (I’m already practicing something of the kind) but something that has a deeper psychologically analytical effect. I’ll try to explain: meditation makes you calm, but after stopping practicing it for some time you get back to where you were before. A regression happens. I’m looking for something that, like a psychological treatment, makes you work out your problems. Like NLP for instance.

Thanks in advance.

My experience is that if you want to go the "psychological" route to heal your mental and emotional thinking cognitive therapy is the only one that really works and it works in 6 weeks in stead of 60 years of counseling. I have done both and cognitive therapy got me much further than anything else.

There is a therapy I have heard about that uses rapid eye movement to help work out emotional trauma. People who have found help from that say that it removes the charge on the emotion of the trauma, the part that makes it feel like it just happened even though it's been 10 years or more is changed so that you don't forget the event but it does not take you out emotionally when you think of it.

[Sapphirez]

Originally Posted by Shivani Devi

Thank you!

Yes, it was EMDR that I was thinking about. I was thinking about EFT at the same time and a confusion of acronyms thus arose. All apologies.

I shall also check out those links you have posted, but I am pretty much at the stage where I feel as if I could actually benefit from a soul/destiny retrieval which a Shaman could provide.

For me, I also require something, like tappng, that is going to work at a subconscious level, seeing as how my ego pretty much has full control over my conscious mind and is very fussy when it comes to "letting stuff through" as we have all just witnessed.

I await the Opening Poster's perusal of this information, as it is all a question and concern of feedback.

If feedback isn't an issue, I wonder why service providers even bother with evaluation forms? but this is just my "wishful thinking" rearing its head once again.

That would be awesome, I hope you get to do a soul retrieval soon! a thought just popped up that might be helpful to you, since you are seemingly looking for your ideal path, with the inclusion of destiny after soul for the retrieval, have you looked at your North Node in Astrology? That is supposed to be the point that shows how we are most supposed to be in this lifetime.. and the opposite sign, the South Node, shows where we tend to go or be but it doesn't serve our best purpose. I'm not sure if you are interested in Astrology at all, and obviously it is an expansive subject and study, but I think it is worth looking into what your North Node is and seeing if that resonates with you. I think it is really amazing the insight and direction it can offer. and helps explain why we resort to certain reactions over and over again to our detriment.. though of course you may already well be actualizing your North Node because it's a process over the course of a lifetime and some are better at getting there than others, I can't really speculate how close or far you are from it but either way I think it may help give you some answers and possible epiphanies just reading or hearing about yours, which you can find out through google or I can help you if you want.

but yeah of course a shamanic experience would be beneficial and profound in any event. how are you thinking of doing this? just looking online or in your area for an in person experience, or are you planning on hiking up some mountains to do an ayahuasca ceremony or something? lol


I can definitely relate to an overactice meddling mind.. it is incredible how effective EFT can be, it's like a sudden shift sometimes and you can't even remember how awful you felt before you did it.. It's great that it's something one can do on their own without a practitioner, but I've also been fortunate to have help from an online friend who does it for a living, so I've had some pretty enlightening experiences with his assistance where he says the words for me and I just tap along.. but I've also done it myself with success, especially outside in nature, well mainly on a walk through city streets lol but it wasn't a busy area, and I care little if people see me talking to trees or kissing flowers haha so yeah anyways there was one time in particular that I think a lot shifted and helped me see life in a new perspective that has stuck with me thankfully.
The only issue with EFT is getting yourself to do it and staying with it.. but even if you only manage to do it for a few minutes once in a while it can still be life changing. Though that is one of the greatest things about life on Earth and our spiritual reality, all sorts of things we do which seem simple or insignificant can have a deep powerful positive effect on us whether we realize it or not



I just want to add to counter those heralding therapy, while I do think there can be lovely benefit to therapy, EFT has been scientifically tested against traditional therapy, and it was proven to be far more effective, in about a fifth of the time.

[WildHairedWoman]

Saphhirez,

EFT is the therapy I mentioned but did not remember the name. I have to say that 20% effectiveness is not a good sign, however I have heard nothing indicating it did not work for anyone so I suspect your 1/5th the time is low for documented effectiveness.

[Sapphirez]

hi Wild, I did think your post elucidated to more profound forms of therapy, with your reference to the eye movement I was thinking it was EMDR which Shivani brought up too. I meant a fifth of the time as in it took that many times less sessions for the EFT to be effective than the CBT (cognitive behavioral therapy) it was studied next to. It may have been a third of the time, I am sure I could find the study if you or anyone is interested, but it was something like the CBT taking 15 sessions and EFT taking only 5 or 3 sessions to be about a quarter more effective

[winter light]

Originally Posted by Shivani Devi

Dear one, if you have already seen clinical psychologists, doctors and specialists in the field and they have proven unhelpful or unsuccessful in treating your trauma, then I just may be able to render some on-forum assistance here.

Treating trauma and healing the mind/brain from PTSD and past abuse is quite the tricky process, because no two brains will process information in exactly the same way, so there is never a "one size fits all" treatment or solution to this.

All I can do is offer you quite a few options and a personal testimony, but you will need to try it out for yourself.

First off, let me begin this by sayng that sensitive people like us are the unwilling and unwitting "scapegoats" if you will. The dumping station for all those people who have unresolved pain and trauma in their lives.

Such tormented souls will look for any external situation or person they can control, seeing as how they cannot control their own pitiful lives, so they find an innocent, pure soul without any boundaries and then hide all of their grief and sorrow behind them in the facade of anger, violence and abuse...and while that behaviour is not (and never will be) okay, it helps us to understand that it also never was or is about us either...we just happened to be there, in a convenient location.

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Hm. Reviewing this thread again it seems I unconsciously parroted the "one size fits all" concept on another thread. Guess it was still resonating. All of your thoughts here fit my experience. I'm currently focusing a lot of attention on issues with my prefrontal cortex too. And don't get me started about boundaries.

[winter light]

Originally Posted by Sapphirez

hi Wild, I did think your post elucidated to more profound forms of therapy, with your reference to the eye movement I was thinking it was EMDR which Shivani brought up too. I meant a fifth of the time as in it took that many times less sessions for the EFT to be effective than the CBT (cognitive behavioral therapy) it was studied next to. It may have been a third of the time, I am sure I could find the study if you or anyone is interested, but it was something like the CBT taking 15 sessions and EFT taking only 5 or 3 sessions to be about a quarter more effective

From my experience those numbers seem grossly optimistic for someone with childhood developmental issues. However at the right time, when one is ready and with focus, a specific issue can be cleared very quickly with EFT.

[WildHairedWoman]

Originally Posted by winter light

From my experience those numbers seem grossly optimistic for someone with childhood developmental issues. However at the right time, when one is ready and with focus, a specific issue can be cleared very quickly with EFT.

I thought this thread was about childhood trauma, not developmental issues. Those are two different things and the therapy for developmental issues is not usually psycological, and different depending on the issue.

[winter light]

Originally Posted by WildHairedWoman

I thought this thread was about childhood trauma, not developmental issues. Those are two different things and the therapy for developmental issues is not usually psycological, and different depending on the issue.

The thread is about upbringing. And I just checked the terminology per a major website and found this: "Child development includes physical, intellectual, social, and emotional changes "... Not sure the best term but I think it works. So I mean deep emotional issues over long term during childhood development.

When the family dynamics are messed up there are chronic long-term ongoing trauma. As opposed to a single event. This forms layers and secondary trauma called complex PTSD. So you can apply the EFT to certain issues but then other issues come up. It takes a while to work through it. And it may even be painful to attempt EFT until one is ready to deal with the issues.

Another factor is what the age range is when the major problems occurred. Some people have pre-verbal trauma as well where one cannot even get to a story to work on cognitively. In those cases one really needs someone else to be present with them in a safe space and listen for a while. And sometimes you make some progress but then regress and need to rebuild trust again. I'm not a therapist just someone who has worked through this. I cannot imagine doing this in 5 sessions of EFT. Maybe that is also why I never resonated with CBT as it seemed way too advanced for the self I was healing.

One more thing I need to suggest is don't try to compare another person's trauma against your own. This is very personal. What matters is how it affected you and whether you got overwhelmed. You will know by how hard it is to let it go and have to respect that. Becoming your own worst enemy and expecting yourself to "get over it" based on some arbitrary time scale just makes it harder. Must be patient and allow it to unfold.

[Sapphirez]

I think that childhood trauma is definitely related to developmental issues, but then again both of those are wide subjects so there's little room to nitpick about which each encompass. Obviously it's established that trauma effects development in a myriad of ways.. and while each person is a unique individual, we are all humans sharing a soul source so we are capable of healing in similar ways. In my opinion it comes down to consciousness, and again consciousness is a gigantic topic.. It includes increasing mental and intellectual awareness as well as using physical and spiritual means, which all tie together to contribute to healing. The issue is humans have been hurt because they've been deviated or deprived of their nature or connection to it, whether it is their physical needs or their other less tangible needs. I believe that humans are derived or parcels of love, and when we experience things that are foreign to the love concept we can be hurt and have side effects of that in various ways. I do like to emphasize our connection to the physical nature here because if it weren't important we wouldn't have manifested here as humans, so sometimes supplying ourselves with ample nature we were designed to consume helps exponentially increase healing of other nonphysical issues, since it helps to clear the channels of our physical bodies and all that entails, allowing source or spirit or whatever divine noun you prefer to use to come through more easily. If a person is blocked mentally or emotionally and the physical body is bogged down and backed up too, we can't focus enough healing and feeling energy on solving the other problems. but in the same token if we only focus on the physical we can't expect to heal as deeply, even though much of the physical world has spiritual elements and connection to it.. We are designed in an incredible way with all sorts of possibilities and potential to heal and become and share more.. which is one more point, sometimes the greatest healing comes from our creation and giving which is also a form of consciousness.. Anyway lol I don't know exactly how EFT works, but it involves using our minds and words as well as our bodies coupled together, and apparently there are key points on our bodies that are easier gateways to healing and reprogramming. There are ways to improve on even a tried tested true technique like EFT though, and relying on yourself and the world in more than one way is the surest way to achieve the most lasting healing and recovery