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07-12-2017, 08:47 AM
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07-12-2017, 08:52 AM
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How very Zen of you.
Meeeowwwllll
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07-12-2017, 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Shivani Devi
Yes maybe...but the whole question is...is the cat dead or alive while you skin it?
Don't mind me...I am in a silly mood.
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We can't really until we open the box teehee.
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07-12-2017, 11:22 AM
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Bwahahaha. Cracks me up.
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07-12-2017, 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Shivani Devi
It all depends on the seeker and the efficiency of means.
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Yes. The practice that I’m advocating here involves a disruption or cutting through of the root delusion of separation - which I’m positing as a form of practice in itself (as in, a habitual or customary procedure.)
However this disruption can be brought about is valid - but it will most often only occur in those who are ripe.
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07-12-2017, 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by blossomingtree
Just because everything is God, it doesn't mean that we should maim or that a beginner is an adapt. The shortcut of it's all Oneness is ironically for the more advanced of practitioners, but of course with the advent of the internet, everyone wants to believe it is applicable.
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Quite true.
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07-12-2017, 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Iamit
Both have a place depending on what suits the seeker.
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Definitely.
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NA removes that burden and rejects the idea that there is any distance between seeker and sought, that the seeker is already what is sought exactly as the seeker already is, including not realizing!
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If it is truly and viscerally known that there is no distance between the seeker and the sought… then just that is the required realisation.
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07-12-2017, 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by blossomingtree
I see it as everyone is living the life that they want to; some people are interested in art, music, food; some are interested in spirituality.
In Buddhist terms when one has aroused the intention of enlightenment/compassion, Bodhicitta, then the forms that one undertakes to reach that ultimate goal is called practice. At the beginning these include more formal modes of practice (in the tradition that you may practice in there is zazen, koans, shikantaza, reflection and inquiry), and in the end these remain important for more reasons than one, particularly when one realizes what a koan really is.
Stopping what you call "default practice" (to switch to your terminology) is a cursory practice, stopping it momentarily offers some glimpses but requires substantively more momentum; but it's what happens after all that that is most very interesting. My 2c.
BT
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Yes, 'default practice' could also be termed default procedure or default habit of mind. This cutting through or disruption of the default compulsion could be seen as a corrective to a bad habit. But as we know, bad habits don't die easily.
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07-12-2017, 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Moondance
Definitely.
If it is truly and viscerally known that there is no distance between the seeker and the sought… then just that is the required realisation.
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We have been here before Moondance. Whatever realization is imagined as required is not required for connection.....for one very good reason.
It is not the seeker that is unrealized:)
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07-12-2017, 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Moondance
Yes, 'default practice' could also be termed default procedure or default habit of mind. This cutting through or disruption of the default compulsion could be seen as a corrective to a bad habit. But as we know, bad habits don't die easily.
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Is that so?
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