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28-11-2016, 08:56 PM
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Master
Join Date: Nov 2011
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Lauterb, thank you for directing me toward Kardec's works. I have downloaded and started to read the Spirits one already. I will be reading it more than once. But he isn't the only one who have talked with spirits through mediums and just like with living humans, there's more than one opinion and version of the facts among them. That there is some kind of health farm on the other side for the suicide cases seems reasonable enough. That it consists of having to commit suicide over and over ad infinitum is a little bit more fishy. In my opinion. I can't quite imagine an arena filled with millions of people doing exactly hat they are punished for in the first place. That's like punishing adulterers by having them continue eternally with the adultery. If you pardon the pun.
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28-11-2016, 10:30 PM
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Hi bubbles i have to disagree with you, i am a medium i have given messages from people who passed through suicide.they are not condemned at all.they go into Healing in the spiritworld.
Namaste
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28-11-2016, 11:29 PM
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Pathfinder
Join Date: Nov 2016
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I always had the impression that one who commits suicide may or may not go to a place that matches with the vibration of their feeling state upon death BUT healing and love is always available and can always be accessed. Love and healing is for everyone.
For instance, if I killed myself because I was feeling lonely and helpless, I may end up in a place similar to that experience when I pass through the doorway BUT if I'm open to (which, let's face it, we all are) the possibility of being healed, accepted, and loved I'd be pulled upwards in order to begin a process of soul healing..
I must stress that if it is an illness there are ways to fight it, and that we shouldn't let it overtake us when there are options available.
I say this all with caution. I don't want anyone getting the wrong idea. Always seek out support above all else. It's possible to live a Heaven on Earth. Just as we would heal after physical life, we can heal here too and we should always strive for that... we all have a reason/purpose for being here.
If anyone reading this has thoughts of suicide please talk to someone or contact
http://www.spsamerica.org/ (1-800-273-8255)
http://www.suicide.org/international...-hotlines.html
Last edited by Xanny : 29-11-2016 at 02:26 AM.
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29-11-2016, 08:50 AM
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Experiencer
Join Date: Feb 2016
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Originally Posted by Native spirit
Hi bubbles i have to disagree with you, i am a medium i have given messages from people who passed through suicide.they are not condemned at all.they go into Healing in the spiritworld.
Namaste
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it's okay I was just trying to scare the OP not to do anything dumb |
29-11-2016, 09:57 AM
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Master
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: Pretoria South Africa
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Feeling suicidal is a sign of depression and it is better you see a proffessional who will assist you. No one knows what happens to a person who commit suicide and whatever we say is pure speculation.
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29-11-2016, 05:22 PM
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Master
Join Date: Sep 2013
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Disagree (respectfully) shoni. I remember what happened to me after I commit suicide up until I reincarnated into this lifetime.
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29-11-2016, 05:32 PM
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Ascender
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It depends. People commit suicide for a number of reasons and there are different types of suicide. A person suffering depression may feel freed after having done but then feels remorse and sadness for leaving behind those who really loved them. Other suicides are done out of desperation or accident.
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29-11-2016, 09:42 PM
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Yes what you say is true but who are we say what a person thinks before they do the act some do it out of desperation,others out of a call for help.i have seen both sides of this as well as being a medium,i am also a councellor .
a lot of people do come through with regret not for themselves but for those left behind. and what they are going through.
Namaste
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29-11-2016, 11:26 PM
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Master
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: ♡AUSTRALIA♡
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I still say suicide is a false conception, suicide is defined as killing a life.
The human flesh is not a life. Only you the soul is, & you will not be killing you the soul when you sever the energy connection to the flesh.
The life force of you the being inside the flesh is still alive as you the soul naturaly drifts out of & from within the flesh.
You can still see, hear, speak & remember all of your experiences. &
You will continue on with your life......SO simple.
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