Angels perceived as evil

Tirisilex · #1 05-12-2017, 08:21 AM

I posted at a Christian site that I have 2 Angels watching over me and they are telling me that Angels dont speak to people and that I'm conversing with Demons. I find that very hard to believe because these Angels have been teaching me to trust in God and to have faith in him. I dont see how that is demonic in any way.. I would understand if they were exalting themselves and looking for glory for themselves in some way. But these beings fruits do not show me any kind of evil deed at all. Christians man.. I'm trying to understand God better and they say it's an evil thing because Angels are helping?? I've been learning to be Christian and I find a lot of these Christians have bad attitudes.

John32241 · #2 05-12-2017, 03:21 PM

Hi,

Yes a lot of Christians are like that. Their problem is, from my point of view, they believe God is not unconditionally loving. Just loving based of some set of conditions. Then so called wise men establish these conditions.

You are blessed to be Aware that there are angels watching over you. You can feel the love they have for you and it is not based on some set of conditions.

Now if you really want to understand God better, I would suggest some thing different than religious doctrin. Have you looked into channeled information?
I like the Kryon material myself. Look at some of these things then let Your angels guide you to discern information which resonates with you better.

John

Tirisilex · #3 05-12-2017, 10:58 PM

I cant believe this.. I'm thinking of leaving this Christian Forum. They are trying to tell me to not believe in Angels and their help. They ignore what I tell them about what the Angels are teaching me and they sit there and say "in all my years of being a Christian I have never experienced believers interacting with Angels." And they go on to say that communing with Angels is a Demonic thing.. I would understand if the Angels were trying to get me to worship them or put themselves before God but they are not.

I lost my Job today and my SS Check was $200 short. The Angels told me to pray to God about it and Trust that he will take care of it and walk in faith and do not worry about my financial problems.

Now if these Angels said "Petition us for your problems and We will take care of you. You can rely on us.

Then yes I could see why I shouldn't listen to them but again they are teaching me to rely on God not themselves.. This whole thing is made me frustrated.

jvassal · #4 02-01-2018, 03:21 AM

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Originally Posted by John32241

Hi,

Yes a lot of Christians are like that. Their problem is, from my point of view, they believe God is not unconditionally loving. Just loving based of some set of conditions. Then so called wise men establish these conditions.

You are blessed to be Aware that there are angels watching over you. You can feel the love they have for you and it is not based on some set of conditions.

Now if you really want to understand God better, I would suggest some thing different than religious doctrin. Have you looked into channeled information?
I like the Kryon material myself. Look at some of these things then let Your angels guide you to discern information which resonates with you better.

John

If one is a Christian, a believer/follower of Christ, they have the holy spirit who will teach them concerning all truths... i would lump your suggestion about channeled messages in with your dubiousness of religious dogma... both are conceived by man.

Tirisilex · #5 02-01-2018, 04:10 AM

Why do I hear angels instead of the Holy Spirit? Maybe I need special care? Maybe Angels would be a better choice to deal with me because of my Issues of hearing Voices throughout my life. How people in my past have reacted to the fact I heard voices at all.. I think Angels were sent to me for a reason.

neil · #6 02-01-2018, 11:04 AM

It is of my opinion that you can never see or hear the holy Spirit.....but you can see, hear angels and or spiritual beings.

Because the holy Spirit is not a sentient conscious entity of knowledge. Like angels and or spiritual beings are.

The holy spirit is instead, the holy spiritual essence that flows from god/creator and which reconstructs the soul self transforming a person into the devine christed being....scripture....the transfiguration.

It is a desire of the god/creator entitie, to transform every sentient conscious being into a divinely christed being, but it is only possible if we understand the true nature of god and his transforming holy spiritual essence.

The holy spiritual essence is there for us by our side and ready to connect to us and start flowing into us....when we understand the truth of it and how to activate it...

ARE YOU AWARE OF IT'S NATURE, AND HOW TO ACTIVATE IT, AND KEEP IT CONTINUOSLY FLOWING INTO YOU ?

The holy Spirit gives the newly devine christed being access into the holy kingdom......

"HOLY FATHER.....HOLY SPIRITUAL ESSENCE.....HOLY KINGDOM"

The devine love path....The path less traveled...the path to gods love.

Regards neil.

John32241 · #7 06-12-2017, 02:30 AM

Hello,

Some thing like that would frustrate any of us.

In circumstances like that, I would look for angelic guidance on how best to proceed. My faith is in the spiritual guidance I get, not in some unknown power doing things for me.

John

Tirisilex · #8 06-12-2017, 05:40 AM

I asked the Angels how should I handle people like this in the future. They said "Ignore them and be silent." They are unwise and refuse to see truth. No matter what I say to them they will stubbornly continue to tell me that I am in the wrong. It doesn't matter how much evidence I put in front of them they are set in their ways. Be Silent just as Jesus was silent during his trial.. There is nothing I can say to deter these kinds of people from their thinking. Just be silent they said.

Dargor · #9 06-12-2017, 12:52 PM

Many Christians pretty much demonise anything whenever it isn't right up their alley. I would advise you to stay away from such sites.

Tirisilex · #10 06-12-2017, 08:29 PM

Even the Christians on this site are giving me a hard time. I do not know how they can reason that these Angels are bad when all they have been doing is teaching me how to take faith in God and to trust him. What kind of Demon does that? My faith in God has never been so strong now than it has ever been. And I got Christians telling me that I'm wrong. I dont get it at all..