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Old 03-10-2018, 11:51 AM
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Have you ever wondered...

why you came onto the planet Earth as a human?
Maybe you have wondered, as I do, who or what or why you were born right at the top of the league of life - were life a football match you'd have to win all your games to get the pride of place at the end. In other words what have you done to have deserved such a privilege?
Being born into this life as a human is, on balance, quite a rare thing. There are millions of life species on this globe and countless members of some of these species. And yet, here you are, right at the top of the table, so why are you not a Siberian Tiger (an even rarer form to assume than a human) or an elephant (still rarer than a human but not as rare as a duck-billed-platypus). One could under the circumstances even ask why you are not a giant redwood tree or a tulip.
Should I care to ask my neighbour why she is a human she'll say 'because of my mum and dad', if I go further and ask her husband he'll tell me about genes and DNA strings. Richard Dawkins would carry on in the same words but with much more details.
Nevertheless one does wonder. In that void, before you were conceived, where were you? Who 'said' let's make Busby a human being, male, white and keen on tennis. If my mother had quickly changed places with a girl friend seconds before conception would I still be the person writing this?

What are we not seeing?

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/...begins-when-s/

Obviously there are plenty of ideas about where you were before you were precipitated into life and you should be thankful that things turned out quite well. You do after all (presumably) have walls which surround you, a roof over your head, and food on the table. Some people don't. Had you been born as a polar bear you have nothing and have to fight for every sardine you can get. So, repeating the question, why weren't you born as a polar bear? What made the difference.
You could of course tell us about evolution in the real materialistic sense and make Richard Dawkins happy - although I doubt if he'd want to hear anything about re-incarnating. Maybe you'd tell us about spiritual development/evolution which is just as difficult to explain as this would mean we'd been hanging around in the void waiting for the next bus so to speak.
Personally this quandary, (why am I not an elephant) tends to keep my mind busy early in the mornings. This has puzzle has accompanied me for years. I as well as you must have done something to be on the top rank of things and not have to go sniffing in the sewers for lunch.

How did we manage that?????????
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Old 03-10-2018, 12:07 PM
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Have you ever wondered why you came onto the planet Earth as a human?
Didn't you watch Flashdance back in the 80s? Pick your passion, and make it happen!" And there's your answer: create the reason why.
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Personally this quandary, (why am I not an elephant) tends to keep my mind busy early in the mornings.
Instead of spending time wondering why you're not an elephant, why not volunteer at a game reserve or animal shelter? Now there's a truly noble calling and purpose for coming to planet earth as a human: compassionate caring and comforting of the innocent animal world.
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Old 04-10-2018, 10:08 AM
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Didn't you watch Flashdance back in the 80s? Pick your passion, and make it happen!" And there's your answer: create the reason why.
Instead of spending time wondering why you're not an elephant, why not volunteer at a game reserve or animal shelter? Now there's a truly noble calling and purpose for coming to planet earth as a human: compassionate caring and comforting of the innocent animal world.

Flashdance is unknown to me in content but not in name.

I don't think I'll go and register as at a game reserve, I'm a bit too old for that. But, just to be said, I think I have done my ration of compassion and care in the human world - judging myself of course.
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Old 03-10-2018, 02:15 PM
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I think it was just pot luck of the universe
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Old 04-10-2018, 10:11 AM
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I think it was just pot luck of the universe


A short and sweet answer. Gives us all plenty to think about in the future and opens up so many doors any of which could offer a mixture of clues.

Thanks.
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Old 14-10-2018, 12:39 PM
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I think it was just pot luck of the universe


Unfortunately, for some people, I am a person who is always wondering. Even the smallest details interest me. The list of questions I have has no end. Meaning I never really am satisfied. The question I asked here hasn't been responded to in the way I had hoped. I'm not being disrespectful or in any way disparaging. It's my problem that my head gets busy with these things.

AraceliCianna's response was one which offered a possibility and indeed could well be an answer. In fact there's no evidence for anything else.
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Old 14-10-2018, 01:18 PM
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AraceliCianna's response was one which offered a possibility and indeed could well be an answer. In fact there's no evidence for anything else.
Some say you 'see' what you 'believe'. Othes say you ex-peer-ience what's 'in'side of 'you' as being 'out'side of 'you' (and so 'see' as 'self'-evident truth).
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Old 14-10-2018, 02:02 PM
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Some say you 'see' what you 'believe'. Othes say you ex-peer-ience what's 'in'side of 'you' as being 'out'side of 'you' (and so 'see' as 'self'-evident truth).

That would be accepting the world going round in circles actually. There is a song which comes on the radio from 'Whistle Down The Wind' it's called 'What you believe is true'.
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Old 14-10-2018, 02:30 PM
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[quote+davidsun]Some say you 'see' what you 'believe'. Othes say you ex-peer-ience what's 'in'side of 'you' as being 'out'side of 'you' (and so 'see' as 'self'-evident truth).[/quote]
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That would be accepting the world going round in circles actually. There is a song which comes on the radio from 'Whistle Down The Wind' it's called 'What you believe is true'.
Not IF one changes one's 'beliefs' and/or the 'nature' of one's character (ie. of what's going on 'in'side one's self).
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Old 03-10-2018, 07:40 PM
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why you came onto the planet Earth as a human?
Maybe you have wondered, as I do, who or what or why you were born right at the top of the league of life - were life a football match you'd have to win all your games to get the pride of place at the end. In other words what have you done to have deserved such a privilege?
Being born into this life as a human is, on balance, quite a rare thing. There are millions of life species on this globe and countless members of some of these species. And yet, here you are, right at the top of the table, so why are you not a Siberian Tiger (an even rarer form to assume than a human) or an elephant (still rarer than a human but not as rare as a duck-billed-platypus). One could under the circumstances even ask why you are not a giant redwood tree or a tulip.
Should I care to ask my neighbour why she is a human she'll say 'because of my mum and dad', if I go further and ask her husband he'll tell me about genes and DNA strings. Richard Dawkins would carry on in the same words but with much more details.
Nevertheless one does wonder. In that void, before you were conceived, where were you? Who 'said' let's make Busby a human being, male, white and keen on tennis. If my mother had quickly changed places with a girl friend seconds before conception would I still be the person writing this?

What are we not seeing?

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/...begins-when-s/

Obviously there are plenty of ideas about where you were before you were precipitated into life and you should be thankful that things turned out quite well. You do after all (presumably) have walls which surround you, a roof over your head, and food on the table. Some people don't. Had you been born as a polar bear you have nothing and have to fight for every sardine you can get. So, repeating the question, why weren't you born as a polar bear? What made the difference.
You could of course tell us about evolution in the real materialistic sense and make Richard Dawkins happy - although I doubt if he'd want to hear anything about re-incarnating. Maybe you'd tell us about spiritual development/evolution which is just as difficult to explain as this would mean we'd been hanging around in the void waiting for the next bus so to speak.
Personally this quandary, (why am I not an elephant) tends to keep my mind busy early in the mornings. This has puzzle has accompanied me for years. I as well as you must have done something to be on the top rank of things and not have to go sniffing in the sewers for lunch.

How did we manage that?????????
I could try to be funny ... I could try to be serious ... Which to choose?

Years ago, I also began to wonder: Why am I here? What am I supposed to do? Why do people reincarnate (when I started to believe that we reincarnate)?

In a few words ... I currently believe that souls are on a path of evolvement. We incarnate in Physical because we can't yet "be for long" on a higher plane of existence. We incarnate as humans, because we progressed enough not to incarnate as an animal form of life. Humans aren't all on the same level of evolvement.

More specifically ... Humans almost mastered their instincts, and are currently focused and driven by emotions. We can't be for long on a thought-responsive plane of existence (as the higher planes are) because our emotions (fear especially) push us quickly into a nightmarish scenario. So, we mainly need to learn to master our emotions, before our physical reincarnation cycle could end. At the same time we have to improve our intellect (which human just started to develop), and intuition (which humans barely are aware of).

At the same time, each one of us has our individual lesson / experience for this life, that is caused by karmic balancing of the though forms we created in previous incarnations.

Funny reply ... If you ask why you aren't a lower form of life, maybe somebody "up there" hears you, and grants your wish ... (?)
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