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Old 20-05-2017, 06:44 PM
kjw47 kjw47 is offline
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Originally Posted by FallingLeaves
exactly, everyone wants to look good (vanity) or feel good and most people won't long contemplate the opposites of that unless forced into it. But pretty much everything we know is a lie, because noone thinks the truth is beautiful enough to look upon.

The bible says many want their ears tickled--certain religions do a good job of that by assuring many--you are saved or born again and its not truth--its to tickle ears then ask for a tithe. The bible is a two edged sword. Teachings of eternal life or teachings of eternal destruction--ALL of it needs to be learned--In fact a very important truth Jesus gave to us---Man does not live by bread alone but by EVERY utterance from God. = OT--NT.
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Old 20-05-2017, 10:15 PM
FallingLeaves FallingLeaves is offline
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one of the biggest problems I had was dealing with people who wanted to just say 'no' to the possibility of contradictions. To them, the fact of contradictions voided anything that contained them.

Ironically, these same people called themselves 'scientists'... and that is ironic because if you look around the very fabric of our existance is just filled with things contradicting each other. It seems to be one of the pillars things are built on. To just out and out say no to the concept, simply on the basis you don't like them and don't want to deal with them, is a very unscientific stance to take IMO. But I'm just a plebian so what do I know?

But that is where you are if you are starting out in the bible... you take one side of the coin and quote the passages that fits where you are, and avoid all the other passages that contradict it. Then another day of the week on a whim you take the other stuff and avoid the original stuff you liked. For a long time it is just random back and forth and accepting one thing but denying the other, the only constant being that there is always something to care for and something else to dislike, and noone might be able to tell what you might choose that day.

And then one day maybe you get tired of bouncing back and forth and never really getting anywhere, and decide to take a hard look at the FACT of the contradictions... accepting both sides and denying neither... and it is only then that you can even begin to find out what life is all about.

Just because you like something, that don't make it 'good'.
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Old Yesterday, 06:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Still_Waters
Please re-read what I wrote. For many, the process is a progression.
I never re-read (although I may quote from earlier posts). If you want me to understand you explain it in a different way to the post you ask me to re-read.
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Old Yesterday, 06:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Still_Waters
The Lord's Prayer starts with "Our Father, which art in Heaven, hallowed be Thy Name". What is your understanding of the "Name" of God that should be "hallowed" ?

I was just talking to one of my Jehovah Witness friends and he has indicated that the name should be "Jehovah". I have a different understanding but, before stating it, I'm curious to hear other thoughts on this subject.
God has no name, but is known by many names that humans have assigned to God over the ages. Even the name 'God' is a human construct to try and describe that which is beyond words. In Hinduism, God is known as Aum or the Divine Logos. It is the 'Amen' at the end of the prayer. It is the 'Namaste' in greeting. In Judaism, the name of God is unknown or without any human pronunciation. The closest they get to it is YHWH, which has been extended to Yahweh. Still, it is said that any name humans can ascribe to God or G-d or anything like that isn't the name. In the Tao Teh Ching, the very first verse states "The Tao that can be named is not the Tao" which is a conundrum in itself, since it is being called The Tao. Therefore, the name of God is sacred (relating to the Sacral). It is said that if God told us His/Her/It's real name...if God spoke to us, we'd go crazy...we wouldn't be able to handle it. Therefore anything sacred and beyond mortal mention - the experience of 'God's name' is sacred and therefore, hallowed.
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