Men More Chatty Than Women

[Gem]

Pretty entertaining:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Tz2qhLaHnA

[r6r6]

Gem--I accept it's most common, and a fact,

i.e. Xx and Xy is primary fact of biological life.

but man/woman duality is a symbolic cultural construct,

2ndary to the above mentioned facts of biological life.

and the science rhetoric is based on that assumption, and mostly, used as a knowledge structure to maintain gender ideology, but due to the integrity of scientists, as they learn the body in more detail, they realise that the binary-sex concept isn't 'natural',

Huh? Gem, it appears as tho your somehow trying to ambigously say the set man and woman humans is not natural. I think your in denial of obvious facts of biology, once again.

but instead, the bio-genetic complexity brings ambiguity to the construct.

Xx - Xy is not ambigous, and not sure where you getting some idea that they are.

Still, the boy/girl paradigm is how we socially organise individuals to ensure cultural reproduction.

Gem, it is called sex. No sex between man and woman then no reproduction. Why your tacking this tack against primary condition of human nature is not understood by me.

The issue is people are strongly coerced and heavily socially disciplined into into conforming to the binary-gender-sex-sexuality narrative.

It is most common human set Gem. You already acknowledge that.

Again the quote you gave of 1 and every 20,000 men have no Y chromosome is not corroborated any where else that I can find.

The article I gave states that is possible, or at least occurs in mice, but state no percentage of population. Have you found any corroborating evidence for the 1 in 20,000 men with no y chromosome?


The article I posted appears to say that, the genes for penis, gonads and prostrate are in the X but the SRY gene, and/or others in the y chromosome act to turn on those genes in the X that make man instead of woman.

Similar, as somewhere in all of these articles we've posted that some genes somewhere suppress genes that make us man or woman.

I agree there is cultural set of man and woman identies and I agree that there are many of those cultures that exist and have existed long before radio or tv.

None of them can get around Xx - Xy common basis, that is inherent to and critical too human sexual reproduction. No sex then no continuation of the human species.

These are the most common facts of nature Gem.

r6

[Gem]

Originally Posted by r6r6r

i.e. Xx and Xy is primary fact of biological life.


2ndary to the above mentioned facts of biological life.

Huh? Gem, it appears as tho your somehow trying to ambigously say the set man and woman humans is not natural. I think your in denial of obvious facts of biology, once again.


Xx - Xy is not ambigous, and not sure where you getting some idea that they are.


Gem, it is called sex. No sex between man and woman then no reproduction. Why your tacking this tack against primary condition of human nature is not understood by me.


It is most common human set Gem. You already acknowledge that.

Again the quote you gave of 1 and every 20,000 men have no Y chromosome is not corroborated any where else that I can find.

The article I gave states that is possible, or at least occurs in mice, but state no percentage of population. Have you found any corroborating evidence for the 1 in 20,000 men with no y chromosome?


The article I posted appears to say that, the genes for penis, gonads and prostrate are in the X but the SRY gene, and/or others in the y chromosome act to turn on those genes in the X that make man instead of woman.

Similar, as somewhere in all of these articles we've posted that some genes somewhere suppress genes that make us man or woman.

I agree there is cultural set of man and woman identies and I agree that there are many of those cultures that exist and have existed long before radio or tv.

None of them can get around Xx - Xy common basis, that is inherent to and critical too human sexual reproduction. No sex then no continuation of the human species.

These are the most common facts of nature Gem.

r6

The article I provided was clear in saying xx/xy isn't actually the way sex is indentified but there are a lit of genetics and hormones and what have you

Of course the fact is reproduction is sexual, but male/female is the social construct.

[r6r6]

Originally Posted by Gem

The article I provided was clear in saying xx/xy isn't actually the way sex is indentified but there are a lit of genetics and hormones and what have you. Of course the fact is reproduction is sexual, but male/female is the social construct.

Gem, to best of my knowledge what is most common, is the mans spermotozon carrys eithere the X or y chromosome, and that is for the most part determines sex.

Yes there are male mice without a y chromosome. You posted a uncorroborated quote of 1 in 20,000 men have not y chromosome.

I posted links to articles and quoted and stated, the penis, gonads and prostrate gland may all reside in X chromosome but it is the y the activates them.

That all said and well covered, you still seem to be in denial of facts/truth. I dunno why any would not accept the truths as presented and well documented for 60 years or more. X or y chromosome is what most commonly determines sex of progeny.

These are the facts/truth irrespective if you or others can accept them. imho.

None have offered any rational, logical common sense that would invalidate my givens as stated.

r6

[Gem]

Originally Posted by r6r6r

Gem, to best of my knowledge what is most common, is the mans spermotozon carrys eithere the X or y chromosome, and that is for the most part determines sex.

Yes there are male mice without a y chromosome. You posted a uncorroborated quote of 1 in 20,000 men have not y chromosome.

I posted links to articles and quoted and stated, the penis, gonads and prostrate gland may all reside in X chromosome but it is the y the activates them.

That all said and well covered, you still seem to be in denial of facts/truth. I dunno why any would not accept the truths as presented and well documented for 60 years or more. X or y chromosome is what most commonly determines sex of progeny.

These are the facts/truth irrespective if you or others can accept them. imho.

None have offered any rational, logical common sense that would invalidate my givens as stated.

r6

I don't know why you say I deny it when I didn't deny it. I'm just trying to explain that the man/woman conception of sex isn't 'truth', but a social construct. Some other cultures have a different arangment of symbols.

[r6r6]

Originally Posted by Gem

I don't know why you say I deny it when I didn't deny it. I'm just trying to explain that the man/woman conception of sex isn't 'truth', but a social construct. Some other cultures have a different arangment of symbols.

Your not only in denial you also appear confused on this issue.

When you have something, that Ive not already posted, that is rational, logical common sense and invalidates my comments as stated, please share.

r6

[Gem]

Originally Posted by r6r6r

Your not only in denial you also appear confused on this issue.

When you have something, that Ive not already posted, that is rational, logical common sense and invalidates my comments as stated, please share.

r6

I don't understand why I need to invalidate your comments. There's nothing wrong with them.

[Gem]

Entertaining https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuM7ZS7nodk&spfreload=1