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Old 29-03-2015, 05:19 PM
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I never understood why believing in God and accepting Evolution are a hard thing. People say- that is such a paradox! It can't exist. Yeah well the entire Bible is a paradox. Anything it says about God is trivial.

The entire universe is paradoxical. How is it that some things are entirely unconscious, yet seem to be working in an orderly fashion-Sun and stars, but there are conscious-sentient beings who are all over the place and chaotic? Why is some life this way and other life that way? This can go on forever

The soul incarnate in a body is paradoxical. If that is true, which I believe, that means there is entirely other part of my Self that is beyond the body, yet my activity in the body feels like that is all there is.

Matter is such a dream. And such an illusion. Energy that is completely slowed down at a lower rate and vibe. Evolution seems like a bunch of random acts but they aren't. Natural selection is the process of creation or creating on this level. That is how Creating looks and appears to be on this dimension. In higher dimensions it is faster, quicker, and everything is more unified and even more complex.

Spirit manifesting in matter, manifested as matter works this way because that is the level of vibration It is at. We call it the Law of Evolution.

The only thing that appears to be strange is the big bang. If there is anything that was an act of God it would be the First Cause. The First Cause behind anything is God or the Father-Parent Force. The first Cause behind the universe, the first cause behind homosapien appearance, the first Cause behind any interventions or what have you. It comes from the Causeless One. A power that has no cause of it's own, because it is Unity and Oneness that transcends cause and effect.- beginning and end. That power is Eternity, God, Spirit, etc.

See? I don't understand how Religion and Science could possibly be at war with each other. Makes no sense unless you are a Creationist or an Intelligent Designer.
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Book1 HUmans Apply a Reason For Existence of Finite Universe

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Amilius777--The soul incarnate in a body is paradoxical. If that is true, which I believe, that means there is entirely other part of my Self that is beyond the body, yet my activity in the body feels like that is all there is.

Amillus, we can presume that, there are kinds of relationships to your biological/soul body that we are not aware of involving gravity, EMRadiation{ photons }, and others.

Just because were not aware of them does not mean that we have to assign the term "soul" to any one of them, as your comment above indirectly infer/imply or suggest.

If I were to pick out and individual fermionic matter or bosonic force to individually assign to the term soul, then I would have to use the term gravity aka mass-attraction. imho

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does not have a soul within, biological/soul as a whole entity is a soul/biological. imho


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Spirit manifesting in matter, manifested as matter works this way because that is the level of vibration It is at. We call it the Law of Evolution.

Here also, I would assign the word "spirit" with physical/energy ergo fermionic matter and bosonic forces as well as;

the metaphysical-1 aspect of "spirit" as spirit-of-intention via our access to mind/intellect.
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The only thing that appears to be strange is the big bang.

I think that depends only exactly how we define what exactly the alledged big bang was. Ask 100 people to define the big bang with 6 pages of details, and I think you would get at least 50 variations of what exactly a big bang might entail.

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If there is anything that was an act of God it would be the First Cause. The First Cause behind anything is God or the Father-Parent Force.

To be clear, your parents are the initiating set of circumstances for our individual existence, but they had parents also, so on an so on.

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The first Cause behind the universe, the first cause behind homosapien appearance, the first Cause behind any interventions or what have you. It comes from the Causeless One.

I believe the Universe exists without a reason for its existence other that, there may have been as initial set of circumstances, within a finite Universe, that, in Multiverse terms--- the parent Universe --- produces our specific local bubble universe.

Our finite, occupied space Universe--- or conceptualized as a finite, occupied space Multiverse ----is eternally existent. imho I.e. there is no first cause for any local aspect of any part of the Universe, or as Multiverse, only inititating set of circumstances, withing context of eternally existent greater and wholistic, finite, occupied space, Universe. imho

I.e. there is not first cause for eternal existence of our finite, occupied space Universe and since it exists eternally-- in whatever changing/fluctuating transformations ---it is inherently rational, logical and common sensical to understand, comprehend and believe that, there is no first cause. imho

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See? I don't understand how Religion and Science could possibly be at war with each other. Makes no sense unless you are a Creationist or an Intelligent Designer.

I see what I state above and have elaborated upon it much in other threads

"U"niverse > Universe > universe{s} > I-verse < you-verse < we-verse < them-verse

Humans apply a reason for the existence of Universe. Universe does not apply a reason for its eternal existence.

Human conceptualize a finite, occupied space Universe, and then conceptually place themselves outside of the conceptualized Universe, as if they were a God{ ess } holding the whole finite Universe in their conceptualized God{ ess } hands.

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