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Old 21-06-2018, 09:42 PM
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Imo, Jesus Christ himself was a nondualist.

His statement 'I and my Father are one' ( John 10:30) is the same as the Sufi enlightened sage Mansur All Hallaj's Ana 'l-Ḥaqq ( I am the Truth), and the ancient Upanishadic saying Aham Brahmasmi (I am He) of Hinduism.

It is through nondualism that most of Jesus Christs teachings could be understood logically in the correct context.
In the first chapter of my treatise, titled "What Jesus REALLY Meant", which I invite anyone who is interested in contemplating such matters to read in full (click here for pdf copy), I wrote:
Many would rather simply believe that by saying “I and my Father are one” (John 10:30) Jesus unequivocally asserted that the gestalts of his and his/our Father’s spirits were absolutely identical, that they were literally one and the same aspect of Life in action; case closed. Such statement may certainly be read that way and, taken by itself, used to support God-concept co-opting narratives such as the one presented in the Nicene Creed which proclaims that the personage of Jesus was “begotten, not made, being of one substance with the Father, by whom all things were made;” etc. But it may also be taken to mean that Jesus thought and felt that his and said Father-God’s spirits were dynamically integrated and functionally co-operational, and so united as ‘one’, metaphorically speaking, in terms of purpose and consequence – analogous to the way in which partners who aren’t identical may accomplish something they both desire when and as they work together in a complementary manner, which they couldn’t and so wouldn’t be able to creatively accomplish if each worked alone. (This is what holism really means, by the way: “Holism is based upon idea that: the whole is more than the sum of its constitutive parts, so reduction of the whole to its constitutive elements eliminates some factors which are present only when a being is seen as a whole. For example, synergy is generated through the interaction of parts but it does not exist if we take parts alone.”)
There is much more that is pertinent to the topic of 'non-dualism' in that chapter, of course.
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Old 24-06-2018, 04:54 PM
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Davidsun, very nice response...thanks for sharing!


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Old 24-06-2018, 10:11 PM
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Davidsun, very nice response...thanks for sharing!


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My pleasure.

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Words are duality as the unseen cannot contain words it's formless, but you can let your words come from being albeit the mind will be in play to some degree
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Well, words are vibration...since everything is a vibration and frequency...
seems words are just part of everything...is a tree part of dualism...sure...it's
part of the Whole; it's part of the One...are the eyes that see the tree and hearing the words part of duality, of course...all of it,
still part of the One, the Only One.
That's what I have been shown.
Red is part of the One being, the One Spirit that is manifested in every way...in every thing...Seen and Unseen.
All the One.
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