Will someone tell Moses he's God!

[innerlight]

Originally Posted by Honza

I was of the understanding that I am a sinner who has fallen from grace. It is not something that I was conditioned into; but rather it was who I felt I was inside. To go from that to understanding that I am God is a big change.

So then why is it easier to accept that I am a sinner. But you can not accept I am God? Even if you abandon all ideas of being God, or that God is a part of you. Why is it easier to see unworthiness, and being lowly, than it is to empower oneself and see themselves as being so much more? And at the same time say it's not a conditioning that causes you to see so little of yourself.

[Honza]

The whole I am thing seems to belong to people. I can understand that people relate to the "I" because it is part of human nature. I used to see the "I" as being lower than God altogether. God is higher up; higher than our understanding. The "I" on the other hand is conceivable.

Ego and "I" are closely related. So to my understanding all "I" was lower. Even the inner "I".

[sky]

Originally Posted by Honza

The whole I am thing seems to belong to people. I can understand that people relate to the "I" because it is part of human nature. I used to see the "I" as being lower than God altogether. God is higher up; higher than our understanding. The "I" on the other hand is conceivable.

Ego and "I" are closely related. So to my understanding all "I" was lower. Even the inner "I".

Why do you think ' I ' is lower Honza?
I see 'I' as an identity and ego as an identity over identity.

[Honza]

It is a matter of holiness. "I" never struck me as being particularly holy. But the more I think about it the holier it seems.

However I think that God should always have sovereignty over "I"; just to prevent the "I" from going mad in its autonomy.

[sky]

Originally Posted by Honza

It is a matter of holiness. "I" never struck me as being particularly holy. But the more I think about it the holier it seems.

However I think that God should always have sovereignty over "I"; just to prevent the "I" from going mad in its autonomy.

The Hebrew word translated “holy” comes from a term meaning ' separate '
I personally don't use this word.... I am not separate from God.

[Honza]

Holiness plays a big part in my life. My life is a sharp contrast between sacred and profane.

[innerlight]

Originally Posted by Honza

The whole I am thing seems to belong to people. I can understand that people relate to the "I" because it is part of human nature. I used to see the "I" as being lower than God altogether. God is higher up; higher than our understanding. The "I" on the other hand is conceivable.

Ego and "I" are closely related. So to my understanding all "I" was lower. Even the inner "I".

Ah, I see.. So then you seem to have stumbled upon a paradox of thinking here. You have created this "I." Then what makes an I? Who is I? Are you I? Am I, I? Is God I? Who creates this I? Where does this I start? Where does this I end? For one, to be an I, does that mean there is another I out there, that can contrast this first I? Is God, I? Is God a separate I? Is God outside of this I? What exactly is I? What makes an I an I?

Then what constitutes if this I is holy or not holy? What defines God as being holy?

[Honza]

I'm putting a lot of effort into improving my vision of the I. I surrender to the I and do affirmations about the I. I know I have a huge block concerning this matter.

[sky]

Originally Posted by Honza

I'm putting a lot of effort into improving my vision of the I. I surrender to the I and do affirmations about the I. I know I have a huge block concerning this matter.

Jesus said.... My Father and I are one.I understand this to mean, the 'I' is individuality in oneness/ universal consciousness./God.

[Honza]

The I always triggers feelings of negativity in me. It is like the I is on the dark side while the God is on the light side. For many years I saw the God and I relationship as being one of light and dark.