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Old 14-08-2014, 08:15 AM
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Message from unknown.

Hi folks, i am new to this forum. I actually became member of this forum to give these channeled messages. So here is my story.
I am from russia so english is not my strong language so forgive me for bad grammer. I am currently staying in srilanka due to my family business. I was not a spiritual type of person but i was curious about eastern religions and their ways. So i started to read from internet on how to do meditation, contact spirit, channeling etc. after some time i tried to contact spirits during meditation but i failed obviously. but at the age of 14 i started to hear voices in my head. At begining i was so scared just by hearing these voices. My parents took me to the psychiatrists for treatments but the voices keep getting strong. At first these voices were like unclear whisperings, nothing was making sense at that time. Then i started to feel someone standing right beside me constantly. I cant see someone but i knew there was always something lurking. After few months one night i woke up by a sudden jerk. As i woke up my mind was trembled by the voice, it was clear now but by just hearing it my whole body shuddered. Its like turning on a vibrator in your body.
The first words were " hear me". I was so scared to hear something like that. The presence of someone invisible was suddenly stong at that time. The voice keep saying that many times. Each time it was sounding more impatient than before. After i muster some courage i tried spoke to whoever tried to speak me, i cried out " who are you"(strangely that voice was speaking in russian and english randomly) no response!!!. All voices stopped, so i thought maybe it stopped on its own but just after few seconds i star to hear again the same voices. Now the voice spoke " you finally heard me, xxxxxx(my name)", the conversation after that is below(all is in russian, and i recreated it since i dont remember it now, it is not accurate, and mostly made up)


Part 1

Me- who are you? What do you want?

Voice- who am i? Why do i tell you?and to tell you what i want is...worthless.

Me- leave me alone, you (curses).

Voice- you shouldnt used that language, i am not your slave (curses).

Me- stop speaking to me, get out!!!

Voice- never, i will never leave you. You are the only one who can converse with me.

Me- get out now, go talk with someone else.

Voice- you dont order me, how dare you order me!!

Me- you are a ghost, get out.

Voice- thats true, i am a ghost.

Me- then leave me, dont speak to me.

(I felt a pressure on my chest, it was like someone put a hand on it)

Me-dont touch me(curses)

Voice-listen fool, i am attached to you, you called me.

Me- i never called anyone, you (curses).

Voice- (curses) i am asking you to not use that language or i will kill you

Me- you cant kill me, or you would have already done it.

Voice - thats not true, i can kill you but i prefer not. You called me when you did that foolish thing what do you call it meditation. You were so (curses) to call spirits in this way. See what you have done, you called me. Now i cant leave you, i want to ensure my salvation. I need you.
Me- what do you mean, when i did meditation i called you?

Voice- yes, you concentrated on calling out spirits but you were not specific. As for me i picked your call.

Me- then why cant you leave?

Voice- i can leave you if i want but then it will be like wasting a beautiful opportunity.

Me- if you can leave then leave now, go find someone else.

Voice- you are ordering me again, it not that easy, people call out to spirits, sometimes they succeed and sometimes they fail. The connection between the spirit and the caller is severed when the caller end his process. But as for you it didnt since you didnt know anything about it.

Me- but what do you want with me?

Voice- nothing physically.

Me- then why do you want to attach with me?

Voice- because i want to move on from this world but there is no one who can do that for me. You will be the tool for me to ensure i will go to the next phase.

Me- tool!!! You dare use me, i will throw you out myself no matter what i have to do.

Voice- sad, very sad. You will throw me out.(laugh) thats just laughable. To throw a spirit out of someone body or house requires an above average power. There is no one in 100 mile radius can do that. Hold.... There is no one in this whole country could do that.

Me- you are lying. There are churches here in my area.i will go to priest and with their help i will make you leave.

Voice- when i told you there is no one strong enough to do that i meant true.

The priest in (describing name of church) cant do it since he dont know how to remove ghost from his own house. Yes he has a spirit in his house. And he is searching for how to get rid of it. You should know there is no one here will help you except me.

Me- what nonsense you are not here to help me. You want something else. You are descieving me.

Voice - i want something else. But i can help you if you want. Depth of My wisdom is too deep. No one can reach that kind of wisdom in his whole life. I am ready to give it to you on one condition. Just accept me in your mind and soul as your teacher and everything will be fine.

Me- i dont believe you. You are tricking me into giving my minds control to you. I have saw films where ghost possess the people.

Voice- possession is not my style. Have you not heard of ear ghosts. If you have not then find it. I dont posseess someone. It is not a descent way to get what you wanted. I am not tricking you, nor i want your body. My offer was to give you my wisdom inturn you giving me a teachers license. So simple...maybe not.

Me- why do you want my permission to do that. You can talk with me anyway and there is no stopping you.

Voice- planting what i want to say to you costs more energy. I am not very keen on wasting it. If you accept me as you teacher i will not force you to do anything. I will use something else to communicate with you. I will even leave you alone if you like.

Imagine wisdom far grater than anything in this world. Ask me anything, any secrets about anything. I will tell you.
Me- you are bluffing, ghost dont know anything thats why they are ghost. I have read that ghost are those whose some wishes are not completed. Thats why they are stuck

Voice- so does that change anything. I am not going anywhere. Its you who has to decide. Its either a wisdom or torment. Both are your choices.

Me- give me some time.

Voice- 24 hours. Same time tomorrow.

Me- you will not disturb me in mean time.

Voice- stop ordering me. I will not accept any of your commands. I gave you 24 hours. Nothing more.

Then the voice stopped.
As my parents are atheist if i would have told them about this i think i might have ended up in mental asylum. So next day i visited a church to see if he really was telling truth. I met with the priest that the voice described earlier. I asked him about ghosts and gradually discussion came on the hauntings. Then priest himself told me about the hauntings in his house. So it was true what he said. When i was just leaving church i heard the voice again and i was shocked to see that he can come in church.

Voice- checking the claims now are you?

Me- how can you come in church.

Voice- why not, does church stop someone from coming here?

Me- you are a ghost, you cant be here?

Voice- there is no way this church can stop me from coming here. This church contains very low energy. Very less people come here often. Thats why there is relatively low energy here.

Me- so that means you can come in any church and other religious places?

Voice- yes, but where there is higher energy i cant pull off this telepathy. My powers wont work in higher energy places.

After that no response. At night when deadline ended the ghost spoke again

Voice- what did you decide?
Me- since youre going to behave as a leech no matter what i do, i will accept your offer. Just one condition that you wont try to possess me.
Voice- you dont have to worry about that. Now just accept me as your guide and everything will be allright.

I did what he told me, i closed my eyes and thought about the voice and me giving him the position of guide. I did that for like 10 minutes but i didnt know it worked or not. After like an hour i heard the voice again but it was not in my mind it was from near my right ear. It was like someone was speaking in my ear. I was so shocked to experience something like that.

Voice- now you know why i called myself ear ghost. We talk in the ears of our contractee. Before i was not able to make a connection with you, so i had to plant my thoughts in your mind but now when you accepted me as your teacher you gave me that connection. Now i am completely attached with you.

Me- you tricked me, you just wanted to torment me. You are evil.

Voice- there is no evil. And it was a harmless deception. Now i can tell you about my real objective. We ghosts or spirits or whatever you call us are not always bound to your plane. When a person dies his soul/conciousness releases from the body. Now the soul gets to go to the different 10 planes. These are different dimensions. The souls who have not accumulated enough energy find himself stuck in last dimension which is closer to your plane. To pass the 10th plane you have to have a specific amount of energy. Fortunately when i died i did have more energy than the specified amount but i trapped here but thats a different story, or i cant tell you now...i cant decide it.

Me- what are you? you want to release from this plane to go higher isnt it? So you want help of me, and the only way you are going to do this by sucking my energy arent you?

Voice- you are right about sucking energy. I want your energy to free myself but let me tell you a concept.

Me- go to hell, i am not going to let you take my energy

Voice- stop babbling, you can not do anything about it now. But i will make it upto you by giving you the wisdom.

Me- are you insane why i would want your (curses)wisdom. Get the (curses) out of here.

Suddenly i felt a sharp pressure on my forearm. The skin where i felt the pressure was turned red.

Voice- i dont like when someone disrespect me you (curses) child. I would have break your hand if i wished. So beware of me while speaking with me.

Me- you manipulated me ,how can i trust you?

Voice- you dont have an option. I lost a bunch of energy while grabbing your arm. It means i will have to suck more of your energy. Stop making me angry.

Me- do as you please, but dont expect me to be your slave. I will not follow your orders if thats what you want.

Voice- i dont want to give orders. Its not my style. I am more of an angel than ghost.

Me- you and angel, then i am god.

Voice- maybe you are fully right this time.

Me- what do you mean

Voice- nothing. Do you want to know why i stucked?


Next part i will shortly post. I am doing this because it was someones wish.

Last edited by Adrienne : 14-08-2014 at 11:37 AM.
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Old 14-08-2014, 02:37 PM
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I like very much this post. Please post more conversations with this ''voice''.
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Old 14-08-2014, 03:51 PM
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Thanks for sharing. Maybe the angel can take help of ascended persons currently present on Earth. Someone on these forums said that Krishna has taken an avatar currently present on Earth. Maybe the angel can visit him and request his help.
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Old 15-08-2014, 09:04 AM
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This is a 2nd part of the message.

Part 2-----------------------------------------------------

Voice-Voice- nothing. Do you want to know why i stucked?

Me- Maybe if that tell me how to get rid of you?

Voice- then you willl be pleased to know this. It only applies to the souls who have born into a male body. Imagine a long time ago a person living in with his family dies. Now he didnt accumulate enough energy to pass on to other realms so he stays on your plane. To accumulate energy. From where he gets his energy any guesses?

Me- from other people?

Voice- still not entirely correct. The spirit of that man will take the energy from someone who is the elder of the family. If the dying person is a son then he will take his energy from his father. If the dying person is father then he will take the energy from his son. It only applies to the male of the family. Since females will not always be in family.

Me- i did not understand a thing? What kind of vampires are they? Stealing from their own son and father.

Voice- you are a dim wit. It is so easy to understand. It is not stealing. It is the primary resposnsibilty of the elder member of the family to give their energy to make the trapped spirit pass on to other realms.

Me- so if my grandparent is trapped then it my dads responsibility to make them pass on.

Voice- no, it is not your dad's responsibily. It is your uncles responsibility. Spirits of your ancestors have an active channel from your uncles body.

Me- but my father is elder in all siblings. My uncle is youngest in all siblings.

Voice- what did you think when i said elder. Spirits do not take account of age. But they take an account of birth. Only the males who are first born and last born are affected by this. Spirits compare both the first born and last born. The most promising among them is chosen to carry out as a pipeline to them.
In your case your uncle was more promising than your father.

Me- why the only first born and last born? Why not all of them?

Voice- the first born child contains exceptionally high amount of energy. i will tell you about this later. So they are always the first preference. Rate of first borns getting chosen is greater than last borns. Why the last born is simple. It relates to your mother. One who gives birth to you. If i tell you this now your dim witted mind cant work a dime.

Me- you are insulting me.

Voice- you think i care? The knowledge you possess is far too low.

Me- then you might want to elaborate me on these things?

Voice- elaborating you is pain!!.

Me- ghost dont feel pain.

Voice- you will know when you will be like me. A ghost.

Me- i am not going to end up like you.

Voice- well think again. Your uncle will certainly fail in his task. Then he will die too. After his death his elder child will take place of him. He will fail too and death will come after him. After that your turn. Then you will be trapped in this realm just like me.

Me- wait!!! You said if you accumulate enough energy you can cross over to other realm then how can you be trapped in here?

Voice- you cannot cross over if your ancestors are already there blocking your way.

Me- what do you mean?

Voice- imagine a tunnel where all of your ancestors are jammed in it. Now they are trapped because they didnt have enough energy. Now even if you have enough energy can you be able to pass through the big jam of your ancestors? As long as there are ancestors who are waiting to pass on, you cannot go to other realm.

Me- thats absurd. They are souls. They were ancestors in their human form but now they were souls. In their soul form how can they be my ancestors?

Voice- as long as they are trapped in this plane they are more of souls with survived conciousness. That means they have not attained their true soul form. It can only be attained if they pass on. They are still your relatives even if they are dead. Do you watch horror movies? Why ghost in those movies appeared as when they were human.

Me- ok, so they are still my ancestors and they choose someone to give them energy but if you calculate there will be like more than thousand ancestors in our family. How can you be able to pass all of them.

Voice- not all of your ancestors are trapped . It is a chain reaction. When one gets trapped then so do others. As the time goes by many of the trapped souls pass on accumulating energy. While others join in. And one more thing there might be more than one pipeline for those of your ancestors. Obviously it will be from a more distant branch of your main family. It is random on which branch they chose. But criteria remains the same.

Me- so how it affects us?

Voice- well see how your uncle is doing..

Me- okay i understand.

Note- my uncle was always in financial troubles as well as constant illness in his family. While my family was contrast. So i understood that being a pipeline means falling in hell of a trouble.

Me- but then what i have got to do with it? You said my uncle will fail, can you see future too?

Voice- yes and no, as far as your uncle is concerned any fool will see he is going to fail. You dont need to see future for this. Anyway he will be out of the game soon, it will come down to his eldest child. His life is going to take a twist.

Me- what do mean by out of the game? Are you saying he is going to die?

Voice- yes and no, future is always changing. I can see that he will die soon but if something intervened he might be saved.

Me- so he can be saved isn't he?,tell me how to save him?

Voice- you can't.

Me- why? You just said that he might not die if something tries to stop it?

Voice- yes, but i will not let you be the one who stopped it. It is for your own good.

Me- what are you saying? Are you mad? He is my uncle i have to save him.

Voice- tell me how can you save him from an heart attack. Do you have any means to stop it. Interfering actively with someones destiny is prohibited. You are free to give him advice on to take care of his heart problem but dont tell him about his approaching death. Nor try to stop it.

Me- is there is any other way, you are a ghost why cant you do something?

Voice- thats something is out of my hands. Stop calling me ghost. I am a spirit.

Me- (curses and curses and more curses)

It was a painful night. I cried whole night. Knowing that my uncle will die. And i cant really stop it. I was going to just watch my uncle going far away from me.

Next day

Voice- good morning, sleeping beauty.

Me- not your voice. Not the first thing in morning.

Voice- you and i are stuck together so you should better stop complaining.

Me- you ruined my life.

Voice- on the contrary i will make your life wonderful (laugh)

Me- you told me about my uncles death do you not have any common sense that you should not give that kind of info to a 14 year old boy.

Voice- does that matter? No!!. Death cannot be escaped. It can be postponed for a limited time but escaping it is impossible. Everyone dies. Get over it. I died. I got over it.

Me- really!!!

Voice - seriously??

Me- well the ghost who is also a philosopher can you tell me how to get rid of you?

Voice- well to get rid of me you have to give me enough energy so i can be passed on.

Me- so you are using me as a pipeline. But then what you said last night why cant your predescers gave you energy, why me?

Voice- because i dont have any predescers. My 80% of family was wiped out in last war. You know the world war.

Me- but then what about your remaining of them, why you cant take anything from them?

Voice- the remaining ones were able to conceive the next generations but all of them were which were born were girls except two boys. After that both of them died without giving birth. So my family line died with them. So i dont have anyone who might have gave me energy.

Me- but what about the girls, cant they do anything for you?

Voice- they can but they have to establish a connection with us. We cannot establish connection ourselves unless they are males.

Me- so if they want they can give you their energy?

Voice- yes. But they dont know about this. Nor i have any way of meaningful contact with them. All i can do is haunt them in their dreams.

Me- then why me, dont you find anyone besides me.

Voice- you are a fool, where do you think is my permanent residence?

Me- Hell.

Voice- well this plane is more of an hell if you think about it. My residence is in your house. This is the place where i died. Thats why when you call out to spirits i was the first one to get attached to you.

Me- what the hell, what are you saying?

Voice- this house was built in 1860 isnt it? Who do you think build it? It was me who built it. Fortunately for you and me i was the only one who died in this house. Others were died in different places.

Me- but my grandfather died in my house?

Voice- no, he died in hospital, he was alive when those paramedics rushed him to the hospital. You didnt check your facts dim wit.

Me- well so you mean to say that souls peoples are trapped at the site of their death. How can this be, you were there at church.?

Voice- thats because i can still telepath with you since i am attached to you. I lied there. I didnt enter in church. I cant leave this house and its surrounding area which is very small. But what i told you was true. Any spirit can enter a church or mosque as long as their energy is low. It is one of rule of nature, when people die if their soul doesnt have enough energy to pass on , they get trapped at where they die. They cant leave but if you have a channel connected with them you can call out to them. We do not leave this place instead our small part of consciousness visits them.

Me- so then why we didnt felt any presence of you?

Voice- because you people are not sensitive to pick up our energies. And i dont wanted to show myself to your family.

Me- then why now?

Voice- because you try to call spirits, that means you were ready to connect with a spirit. I took the opportunity.

Me- but then why did you wanted to be my teacher?

Voice- because that connection was not meant to draw energy. To actually draw energy i had to establish a link which was voluntarily established by you on basis of an emotion.

Me- so teacher thing was just to make me establish the pipeline for you? Greedy ghost.

Voice- yes and no. You are not capable of understanding things. So just leave as they are.

Me- now then you just want to pass on right? But what about your ancestors?

Voice- they were cleared by my last two boys, but i remained.

Me- its confusing, as per you sayings what i understood that first one gets first preference, then all your ancestors have pass on so then why you remained?

Voice- thats none of your concern.

Me- grumpy ghost hiding secrets now.

Voice- shut up. I think you have a school today havent you forgot?

Me- you are not going to follow me into school right?

Voice- i go where ever you go. We are soulmates.(laugh)

Surprisingly he was silent for about a week. And then he spoke again on an unlucky afternoon.

Voice- are you gay?

Me- (curses) , what kind of question was that?

Voice- i dont see you hanging out with girls, you dont even watch those videos on internet. Even i though i am a spirit determining you are gay or not is hard for me.

Me- you can see future why dont you see for yourself, and dont ask that question again.

Voice- i dont see future for these puny things. Gay or not i dont care. But it will be better if you dont happen to be a gay, life will be difficult in coming years for them.

Me- why do you even care?

Voice- you wont understand now. I hold every life dear. It will come to you when you will become just like me.

Me - forget it i am not going to end up like that. And stop whispering in my right ear. Try left one often.

Voice- it doesnt matter which ear i choose. You should not bothered with that. You have many things to be bothered after this.

Me- what do you mean?

Voice- well your uncle is going to die, after him his eldest son will be the pipeline.but
You have got more potential than him.

Me- so? What do,you want me to do? Take his role?

Voice- exactly. You have to become that supplier.

Me- are you crazy? Why would i wish a curse on myself?

Voice- it is not a curse but you have that potential to make your ancestors pass on.

Me- you said that my ancestors will choose who will become their supplier?

Voice- yes only if you are not willing. If you willingly accept to become the supplier then they will choose you. But every action has its consequenses. By doing this only good thing which is going to happen to you is that if you succeed then you will be able to pass to the next plane. The disadvantage is that your life will become hell, not literally but sort of. You are still too young so you will not face any financial problems but you may have to deal with illnesses.

Me- if you have explained with good details tell me why would i make my life living hell if it was not even in my destiny?

Voice- what did i say last time? Future can be changed. You will change your future by doing this. You might have to go through some obstacles which were not even in your destiny but the success will be worthwhile. Your life will be hell when you will not listen to me and die. You will be stuck there for atleast 500 years before your number come. Do you want this?

Me- how can i trust you?

Voice- dont, you should only trust yourself. I will be the last one you should trust.

Me- if i am correct then you are already leeching energy from me. If i made a connection with my ancestors then i will be drained.

Voice- you didnt care about that when your uncle was a connection didnt you?

Me- you are right. I should have.

Voice- one more thing, i was draining energy from you and your family all along.
So dont worry about energy drainage by me. As far as your ancestors are concerned well if you get drained up then you will die.

Me- you are joking, right?

Voice- is that joke to you?

Me- you are talking with a child , you know that right? You cant talk like this in front of me.

Voice- does it matter to me. If i talk in front of you or behind your back , does that change reality?

Me- but still..

Voice- stop behaving like child. You cease to exist as child when i first spoke to you. Now do as i told you.

Me- even if i did what you told me i do not have that kind of energy reserves to supply them.

Voice- thats why i am here for, to teach you how to develop these kind of reserves.
You will succeed. Just do what i told you. Remember first few months will be rocky but if you do what i say you will be fine.

Me- i need time to think on that.

Voice- 2 minutes after that offer will be withdrawn. You will be left for 500 years of solitude.

Me- (curse), thats cheating.

Voice- time is running.

Me- okay i will do it. Just dont bail out on me.

Voice- okay then just do what you did when you establish a connection with me.
Call out to your ancestors, it should be a feeling, feeling of love and respect.
Call out to them and tell them you will help them.

After doing this for one hour i got tired. I stop my attempt to establish link. The spirit told me that it was not successful, i have to try again. After wasting my 5 hours on a span 3 days he finally said that link was established.

Voice- you wasted 5 hours just establishing the link. Incompetent fool.

Me- you didnt told me how to exactly do that.

Voice- its yours to figure out.

Me- you promised me you will help.

Voice- i didnt promise you anything, these simple things you have to learn.
You were meditating for 2 years. Why were you meditating at first place since you were only 12 and your parents have nothing to do with any kind religious things.

Me- why are you asking that, you can read my mind. there is no need to even ask me.

Voice- i dont like to use my spirit abilities often. I like to be human without powers.

Me- your are pathetic.

Voice- maybe, but i like this way. Answer my question.

Me- well i didnt have any clue about religions and gods etc. but then i stumbled upon a religious site. I read that and my curiosity increased. So i started reading whatever i can get my hands on. I was subsequently introduced to the eastern mystiscism. There chakras, auras, crystal etc. so to see how these things work i started doing meditation. Another thing was that i felt peaceful while doing meditation. It was kind of a good feeling.

Voice- so then how do you meditate.

Me- well i meditate an hour a day. I certainly miss my meditation 3 or 4 times a month. I use the budhist mantra "om mani padme hum". I play it on my ipod.
You should know this, why are you even asking?

Voice- i know future.... You will know when you reach that point (it was this channeled message he was talking about)

Me- okay then what do you want to tell me?

Voice- well for starters try to meditate for 2 hours every day.

Me- 2 hours will be hard, i dont think i have time for that.

Voice- then make time. Well let me put it simply. You have a tank of water with a storage of 1 million litre. You only have one thousand litre in that. Per day you put 50 litres in that water. I took 5 litres of that while you ancestors now taking 20 litres
Of that. Your spent other 20 on your ordinary life. Remaining five are accumulated in the tank. Your objective is to fill the tank until it overflows. Now just try to imagine how much voulume of tank you have to fill in stable conditions. I didnt calculate obstacles in it, nor the mistakes you will be end up doing. When you will grown up you will end up spending water in your reserves trying to achieve things. Thus depleting it further. Your 5 litres are remaining just because you are meditating and living a peaceful life. Thats why you will meditate for 2 hours and i will not hear any complaints.

Me- but then what about my uncle, he didnt do any meditation.

Voice- thats the same reason he will die. He ended up spending so much water in his tank that now his body cant go on like that. The same will happen to you if you dont follow what i am saying. Your ancestors wont bestow any mercy on you, they will take their part regardless of water level in your reserve.

Me- if i told my uncle to do meditation will that save him

Voice- its too late for that. Even if you told him to do that first he will not believe in you, second even if believes you he doesnt know how to meditate. Third even if you teach him how to meditate he do not have enough time learn to effectively do that to save his life or i say postpone it further. Either way he will die. You already told him to take care of his health, lets see how he does that?

Me- you are so cold and mean.

Voice- doesnt matter when you have seen enough deaths you will become like me.

Me- so then how can i raise my energy level?

Voice- same as before, meditation. Do that for one month and after that i will talk to you again.
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Old 15-08-2014, 01:46 PM
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I think that this spirit is very wise. Meditation can increase your energy levels very much.
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Old 15-08-2014, 05:25 PM
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I think that this spirit is very wise. Meditation can increase your energy levels very much.

You might right about this, who knows?????
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Old 15-08-2014, 11:21 PM
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In Hinduism there are rituals to help ones ancestors. But I've also read from Shri Prabhupada's writings:

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Sometimes the forefathers may be suffering from various types of sinful reactions, and sometimes some of them cannot even acquire a gross material body and are forced to remain in subtle bodies as ghosts. Thus, when remnants of prasadam food are offered to forefathers by descendants, the forefathers are released from ghostly or other kinds of miserable life. Such help rendered to forefathers is a family tradition, and those who are not in devotional life are required to perform such rituals. One who is engaged in the devotional life is not required to perform such actions. Simply by performing devotional service, one can deliver hundreds and thousands of forefathers from all kinds of misery.
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Such obligations are automatically fulfilled by performance of devotional service to the Supreme Personality of Godhead.

Maybe the spirit can help himself by performing devotional service to God.
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Old 16-08-2014, 02:30 AM
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I didnt knew about this. I should have tried it, atleast i would have escaped from his bickrings.
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Old 16-08-2014, 09:04 AM
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This is a part 3 of the story, still some more to come.

Part 3-------------------—---------------------------------------------------


After exactly one month.(including minutes i think so)

Voice- meditation 101 completed. Now you should be be able to concentrate better.

Me- you were gone for one month. I thought you were more impatient.

Voice- i was never gone. I was always right beside you.

Me- hold on when i go to my natural calls you were with me?

Voice- is that so hard to believe, i am beyond that now, NO i do not go with you when your nature calls. I have some conscience. But i do remain in your energy field.


Me- and i thought you were watching me, what is energy field?

Voice- you call that Aura. Its the energy field around you. I attached to you, so i can reside in your energy field.

Me- does that mean that you can go where ever you want bypassing that natures law.

Voice- yes, i can bypass it. Laws of nature are rigid, so it can be easily bypassed.

Me- it is a violation of privacy.

Voice- your privacy was non existant from the start. I was here before you came remember?

Me- i remember. okay now what do you want to tell me?

Voice- its simple, first stop reading anything about any religion. The more you read about them the more you will get confused. It will be better if you remain religion neutral. Other than that now you are able to withstand 2 hours of meditation now lets take it one step further. Get me some information on the mantras used in meditation in a way of hinduism.You have one day.

Me- you know about them already, still you are making me look for them.

Voice- just do what you have told to do.

Next day

Me- i have done your work which you alteady knew, you were going to
tell me something about it werent you?

Voice- why are you angry? You should be happy about it. You got to know many things about their mantras and their uses.

Me- if i am going to learn these things myself then what is your purpose?

Voice- you will learn things yourself but i am only here to give you the correct road. Walking on the road is your job not mine.

Me- will you please give me your holy wisdom so that i can be blessed!!!

Voice- sarcasm, you have to do better than this.

Me - i thought ghost dont understand sarcasms.

Voice- do i look like fool?

Me- i cant see you, so maybe?

Voice- stop this. What did you learn about these mantras.

I told him whatever i read on net, you can search it on net. No need to add that info here.

Voice- so what do you understand by all of that?

Me- well in hinduism they have different gods and godesses. Every deity have one or more respective mantras. They chant them while meditating just like in buddhism.

Voice- now tell me more about their most important mantras.

Me- well there is gayatri mantra which they chant at sunrise. They have another one which was important "om namah shivay". It was of someone named shiva.
Then there is one for vishnu " om namo bhagwate vasudevay". These are most important according to some sites. I dont know much about them.

Voice- shiva and vishnu are their prime deity. Hinduism worships elements. Do you know elements?

Me- yep, fire, water, earth,air.

Voice- you missed one. There is another element named sky.

Me- how can air be different than sky?

Voice- sky is an element from which all the other elements were born. You dont need to know more. Sky trumps all others, that only matters. Now their deity vishnu is actually a water element while shiva is sky. If you chant shivas mantra you will get sky but if you chant vishnus mantra you will get water element. Its a choice. The way you are going to follow needs sky element, but water is necessary for wealth. If you want wealth choose water, want something more precious than wealth choose sky.

Me- sky, anytime. Who need that much money.

Voice- you shouldnt say that. You create what you wish. So then you chose sky.
Very well. Start meditating respective mantra now. 3 hours daily,For three months.

Me- no way, there is no time for it.

Voice- you have time for that. Start waking up at 6 in the morning.

Me- its cold at that time.

Voice- so what? Do you know tibetan monks meditate in subzero environment.

Me- i am not like them.

Voice- so what? You have to surpass them.

Me- surpass them!!!, are you kidding me, dont you think its too much?
Surpassing tibetan monks is impossible.

Voice- nothing is impossible. Some things are still impossible.(laugh). It is easy to surpass those monks. They are not at their supreme.

Me- why do you think that?

Voice- i will tell you this later. For now try to meditate with that mantra. Concentrate at your usual place.

Me- you know where i concentrate?

Voice- yes, i know. I observe your thoughts while you meditate. But i cant talk to you when you meditate. I will end up disturbing you. Do what i told you to do.

Me- one question?

Voice- what? Why i am helping you isnt it?

Me- yes.

Voice- lets just say that i have a mutual interest in your progress. I will speak to you again after three months.
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Old 16-08-2014, 01:42 PM
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Interesting. What happened after that?
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