Spiritual Forums

Home


Donate!


Articles


CHAT!


Shop


 
Welcome to Spiritual Forums!.

We created this community for people from all backgrounds to discuss Spiritual, Paranormal, Metaphysical, Philosophical, Supernatural, and Esoteric subjects. From Astral Projection to Zen, all topics are welcome. We hope you enjoy your visits.

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest, which gives you limited access to most discussions and articles. By joining our free community you will be able to post messages, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload your own photos, and gain access to our Chat Rooms, Registration is fast, simple, and free, so please, join our community today! !

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, check our FAQs before contacting support. Please read our forum rules, since they are enforced by our volunteer staff. This will help you avoid any infractions and issues.

Go Back   Spiritual Forums > Spirituality & Beliefs > Affirmations

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #91  
Old 13-01-2020, 01:05 AM
guthrio guthrio is offline
Master
Join Date: Sep 2013
Posts: 4,094
  guthrio's Avatar
What is the beginning of philosophy ?

The beginning of philosophy, or science, or religion is essentially....

....an ITCH that MUST be scratched.....and which can only be satisfied when YOU scratch it....YOUR WAY !!

You seek the impetus within Mankind which has driven us to create philosophies (or religions or sciences) at all.....the insatiable desire to KNOW (not merely to postulate, theorize, "believe", or have faith in..)

....the Truth of Ourselves.

What is the TRUTH OF OURSELVES ??

As indicated in the reference, "Becoming aware of yourself as a spiritual being, offspring of an infinite spiritual system and one with all the powers and capacities within that system, is the very essence of attainment. To grow from the present state of awareness of himself as a material being and into the consciousness that he is a spiritual being contains the full secret of man's attainment.' Man's nature cannot be reversed for he always remains a spiritual being. He can only reverse his notion of himself. Instead of doing this, he should reverse his mistaken idea that he is a material being and retain the truth that he is a spiritual being created in the image and likeness of God."

EXPERIENCING WHAT IS TRUE about Reality is the knowledge we've ALWAYS sought.....not being sidetracked into finding a science to categorize it, or a philosophy to explain it, or a religion to save us.

Whether scientists, theologians, philosophers, or laypersons, we “see” through our ideas.

The truth about the "reach" of our very understanding of REALITY is that each and every advancement has come about after we discovered what has ALWAYS BEEN TRUE, and waiting for us to discover it....our progress is based on SELF-DISCOVERY of what ALREADY IS....TRUE !!

...even when the tightly held ideas WE THOUGHT WERE TRUE were REALLY based on false information and dogma, WHICH virtually everyone believed, transmitted, and acted upon AS IF TRUE .....that is, until others, following their OWN ideas came along, who had quantifiable, repeatable, verifiable evidence based on a DIFFERENT set of ideas that turned the paradigm of established scientific or religious consensus on its head !!

Yes, yes ! That's all well and good, but WHERE IS THE ITCH....and HOW CAN I SCRATCH IT ??

The itch to KNOW AND the ANSWER is in the same place as THAT which drove you to ASK THIS QUESTION !! The question AND the answer are in the same place.....within YOU !!

You ALREADY KNOW what the answer is.....beforehand.

You may legitimately ask, How can THAT be ?? "Why would I ask anything OR seek anything if I already know the answer to it beforehand?"

Because .....the knowledge we seek PRECEDES our need…..exactly like the availability of air (answers) precedes our need to breathe it (questions)….

…..or we would not even be ABLE to recognize the answer (breathe), at all.

We've been erroneously taught that when an answer to our question is not immediately apparent to us, we must seek it somewhere else or from someone else.

However, what we are NOT usually taught (and which we must learn to practice) is that when we receive our answer from somewhere else or from someone else....our recognition of it AS the answer is because it existed ALL THE TIME even BEFORE it was bought to our awareness.

2+2=4,....even BEFORE you compute it !! In the same way, ALL Principles of Life are True, Perfect, and Immutable....BEFORE you are even ABLE to know them or utilize them.....

Do you see ? If the answer were not ALREADY true, and truly within YOU.....you would not be ABLE to recognize (RE - cognize) the Truth of it AS the answer !!

In this manner, we can discover an even more astonishing Truth awaiting our recognition (RE - cognition) of it....within:

"Perfection does not come from projecting our own ideas but from awakening to the knowledge that it is already the established order of things.", as indicated in the reference.

Don't believe me ?? Try MAKING 2+2=5. Doesn't work, does it? We cannot even MAKE 2+2=4.

2+2=4, perfectly, truthfully, and immutably, whether you sum the equation correctly or NOT !

WHY ??

Because neither Truth NOR Perfection can change OR be changed. ALL the principles of Life operate that way, perfectly, without variation, deviation, or attenuation for anyone, at anytime, anywhere !! We can ONLY accept its perfect operation, because we cannot change Truth.

If Perfection is ALREADY the established order of things, AND is PLAINLY EVIDENT IN ALL THE PRINCIPLES OF LIFE, WHY HAVEN'T WE KNOWN THIS ??

BECAUSE WE ALL are free to choose to believe that 2+2=5 for ETERNITY until we have acquired FOR OURSELVES the necessary knowledge of the immutable principle that correctly sums the answer.

The same Source Who created perfect principles of mathematics which operate undeviatingly to create ONLY 4 as the answer to 2+2, ALSO CREATED US out of perfect principles.

Our Creator created human beings, AS HIS VERY SPIRIT AND IMAGE. We are Who the Creator is in Spirit....not subservient adherents to whatever religion or philosophy we profess to include ourselves or exclude one another from or fight over.

We must RE-awaken to the Truth that OUR OWN PERFECTION is already the established order of things....and act accordingly. Perfection, Itself created US perfectly.....though most of us have yet to appreciate the awesome majesty of our created state. But we are learning.....

What does Perfection have to do with seeking the beginning of philosophy ??

Do you see? OUR OWN ignorance of the unchangeable, eternal Truth of ourselves (that we are perfectly created) ACTS PRECISELY like ignorance of the perfect operation of a mathematical equation ALWAYS and INVARIABLY produces incorrect results. There is an inescapable consequence to this perception, which is, simply, that you remain in error (in ignorance) of the truth, until you realize it AND act accordingly with it.

IGNORANCE OF THE TRUTH IS THE ITCH that begins the scientific, religious, or philosophical search to find the SCRATCH !!

Whether you KNOW or DO NOT KNOW that you are in error, and continue to proceed erroneously, anyway, the correct answer (Truth) is not in the slightest bit affected.....

BUT.....the solution can only be experienced when we recognize AND apply the Truth to ourselves or to the equation.....PERSONALLY !!

Don't believe me ?

What are you thinking about what you just read?

That's your internal dialogue deciding the yea or nay of this post's relevance to your question....do you see?

You ALWAYS have the last word to accept or reject information or "advice".....whether its source is inside you or from outside you.

Prove these things to yourself. Put them to YOUR TEST.

There is absolutely no need to be confused. One need go NO WHERE but within ONE'S SELF to be taught the truth by the Creator Himself, directly. How else can you then say FOR YOURSELF what is or what is not?

If you KNOW what is true, you will be able to SEE what is false AND what is true.

If you believe what is false, you will only SEE what is false.

Gain the KNOW-ledge for yourself....and the "point" proves or disproves itself irrefutably within YOUR OWN experience....

THAT IS HOW YOU SCRATCH THE ITCH.....

....that caused you to seek the beginning of philosophy, WITH THIS QUESTION....in the FIRST PLACE !!

So SCRA-A-A-A-A-A-ATCH !!!

.....to your Soul's content....

P.S. Feels pretty darn GOOD, doesn't it ?? Wait 'til you hit the "G"od spot within you !!

Reference: http://www.spiritualforums.com/vb/sh...44&postcount=1
__________________
“Why, that’s true! I am a perfect, unlimited gull!” Jonathan opened his eyes asking, "Where are we?” The Elder Chiang said, “We’re on some planet with a green sky and a double star for a sun.” Jonathan made a scree of delight. “IT WORKS!" “Well, of course it works, Jon,” said Chiang. “It always works, when you know what you’re doing." (and even when you don't)

Last edited by guthrio : 13-01-2020 at 01:11 AM. Reason: Add reference
Reply With Quote
  #92  
Old 18-04-2020, 05:05 PM
guthrio guthrio is offline
Master
Join Date: Sep 2013
Posts: 4,094
  guthrio's Avatar
What IS the Garden of You...really?

All,

While considering how to answer a superb question from Honza, one of our Spiritual Forums colleagues, I didn't realize that the primary sources of the answer would come from both Hamlet and Neville Goddard (see the reference below).

Since I first began this thread three years ago in 2017 entitled, "The Garden of You", I didn't know that the reason for it would came from a feeling that is so well described by Neville Goddard's lecture "Your Supreme Dominion"....that I only saw this week, I just had to include it here in the Garden of You thread.

Succinctly, The Garden of You is God as You.

Our own Being "....is called Eden and man was placed within it to keep it and to care it, for the garden of God is man. It is the mind of man. You never find a garden unless a man is present, for without a man there would be a forest of wilderness. But when a man is placed in it he begins to cut the trees or the seeds of wrong thinking; he clears the ground and he cultivates the ground, and then plants wisely. Then you will have dominion, for you will select the seed you will plant, the ideas you will entertain, and you will cultivate them. Knowing the outer world constantly bears witness of the inner arrangement of mind, you will only select the things you want to project into the living garment of your Father. For the whole vast world round about you is a living garment worn by your Father."

"You and I can know a thing mentally by looking at it from the outside, by comparing it with other things, by analyzing it, by defining it, by even giving a description of it." Some of you may recognize this method of "knowing" as Science, right? Goddard goes on to say "... but we can know a thing spiritually only by becoming it. We must be the thing itself if we would know that thing spiritually."

That is the difference between Science (knowing by attempting to describe it) and Spirit (knowing by actually being it).

It is said that God made man in His own image. In other words, as Neville Goddard states: "We must be God like if we would know what God is. For God made me, not out of something other than Himself; He made me perfect, so He made me by becoming me. There was no other way in the world that God could have made me unless He became me." By placing His Own Being in the Garden of man's being, "God became man that He may know man in the only way that He could know anything.."

What IS this precious gift? Why so much ado about "sowing" this "Garden"?

So that we can "reap righteous (right-use) knowledge of this precious gift" God intended for us to "real-eyes" spiritually....by actually being US.

So that "...we can know a thing spiritually only by becoming it. We must be the thing itself if we would know that thing spiritually. We must be in love if we would know love.

....exactly AS God, does, from the very heart of US

We have always been Who we truly are, awaiting our own remembrance on Earth, that I AM THAT I AM as in Heaven.
Guthrio

Reference: http://www.spiritualforums.com/vb/sh...5&postcount=26 Do you think that life on earth is poor?
__________________
“Why, that’s true! I am a perfect, unlimited gull!” Jonathan opened his eyes asking, "Where are we?” The Elder Chiang said, “We’re on some planet with a green sky and a double star for a sun.” Jonathan made a scree of delight. “IT WORKS!" “Well, of course it works, Jon,” said Chiang. “It always works, when you know what you’re doing." (and even when you don't)

Last edited by guthrio : 18-04-2020 at 09:42 PM. Reason: clarify inputs
Reply With Quote
  #93  
Old 01-06-2020, 01:10 AM
guthrio guthrio is offline
Master
Join Date: Sep 2013
Posts: 4,094
  guthrio's Avatar
A Visual Metaphor: The "Unlock"

All,

While watching TV a while ago, I came upon this absolutely fascinating commercial, that utterly captured my imagination.

It is a visual metaphor for how anything, when viewed one way, can seem to appear to not make any sense whatsoever, until one encounters what is called, "The Unlock"., or the "moments when it suddenly "clicks" into a perspective that makes absolute sense.

I found 3 obvious "clicks" in this visual metaphor, while watching it, as you will also be delighted to see, as well (in the reference below).

However, I just unlocked a 4th "click", a moment before I decided to post this to you.

The 4th "click" is....during the moments the camera (of attention) moves between the clarity of the "resolved" images....the apparent uncertainty is absolutely indispensable. Why??

Because without continuing the movement through uncertainty, there are no moments of clarity.

See them for yourself. I would enjoy hearing about how this visual metaphor unlocks any such "clicks" in your own perspectives as "it moves through" the Garden of You.

Reference: https://www.ispot.tv/ad/wwLZ/wells-f...financial-life

(This video is solely an example and is not intended to be an endorsement of any products or services, which would be a violation of Spiritual Forums rules)
__________________
“Why, that’s true! I am a perfect, unlimited gull!” Jonathan opened his eyes asking, "Where are we?” The Elder Chiang said, “We’re on some planet with a green sky and a double star for a sun.” Jonathan made a scree of delight. “IT WORKS!" “Well, of course it works, Jon,” said Chiang. “It always works, when you know what you’re doing." (and even when you don't)

Last edited by guthrio : 01-06-2020 at 01:19 AM. Reason: clarify inputs
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 09:35 PM.


Powered by vBulletin
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
(c) Spiritual Forums