Law of Attraction vs Fate

[Jared.L]

I think that you have given a certain amount of goods you can consume in this life based on your Karma. So the Law of attraction is just the tool to attract what you deserved and nothing more. Moreover, it has some nuances as you will not get the good if Universe thinks that you do not need it now. And If you do not allow yourself to have it or think you do not deserve it, you will not get it as well.

[William 辰]

That is a good description (about attracting things); but only in an older energy.
Because the energies of the planet have begun to change since 2012. (At the beginning of 2013 to be exact.) Karma simply doesn't work anymore.

I wrote a piece on my facebook a little while back:

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I've seen a few posts now about karma and I wanted to share this, in my own words:

1: coincidence does not exist.
2: The "natural principle of cause and effect" is known as 'Synchronisity' a.k.a. 'The law of attraction'. Karma is something else entirely.
3: Synchronisity is neutral; Karma is negative. Synchronisity simply responds to your own vibration. Karma is specialised in giving people bad experiences just to teach them a lesson. That has worked in the old energy because that was the age of survival. In the new age it is our job to show people you can change by helping everybody and showing compassion. If there would remain some system in place in this new energy that gives people bad experiences, it would completely cancel out all our work on the planet in this age. Therefore Karma is going to go away.
"

Also all due respect to Teal Swan, but she's not credible because she's not connected. Just take a look at her video title: 'f the Law of Attraction.' .....

You can even understand it by using pure logic: Humans have free choice; therefore fate is what you make it.

[Kasai Keira]

Originally Posted by Daydreamingmadness

So my question is, is whether everything that you are meant to desire, you are meant to bring into existence? And if you can't create that kind of life in this lifetime, you try to in your next life time?

All of this is hinged upon the idea of fate.

I have always been told that there is no fate. Existence is expressed through different wavelengths of vibration that create sound, light, color, thought, etc. These vibrations are acting freely, and in real time.

Think of it as an improvisational symphony. Any one can, at any time, chime in with their own instrumental. If, however, you are playing discordant notes, it muddies the clarity of the other notes playing around you until you all devolve into a clanging nightmare. The only way to fix the rift in harmony is to start playing better notes... then the rest of your surrounding symphony falls back into tune.

Play good notes, get good music; play bad notes, get bad music = Law of Attraction.

[cdoliveira]

Originally Posted by Kasai Keira

All of this is hinged upon the idea of fate.

I have always been told that there is no fate. Existence is expressed through different wavelengths of vibration that create sound, light, color, thought, etc. These vibrations are acting freely, and in real time.

Think of it as an improvisational symphony. Any one can, at any time, chime in with their own instrumental. If, however, you are playing discordant notes, it muddies the clarity of the other notes playing around you until you all devolve into a clanging nightmare. The only way to fix the rift in harmony is to start playing better notes... then the rest of your surrounding symphony falls back into tune.

Play good notes, get good music; play bad notes, get bad music = Law of Attraction.

I agree. I struggle to believe in fate too. I believe everything happen to us are own responsibility, 100%, at all times. I believe we can get whatever we want whenever we want.

However, not too sure how it works in relation to kids, for instance. What if a kid is born with a lethal disease? They are way too young too attract that to themselves so in this case there might be something that alters his state of mind? It is a bit hard for me to believe that a tiny tiny person is so strong till the point they choose to die horribly over to live. Same goes for the parents. I am sure they did not want their kid to die. So how did that happen?

I completely agree with LOA and I believe it controls 90% of our lives, but in some point there must be 10% we don't control. Maybe that is fate?

[William 辰]

Originally Posted by cdoliveira

I agree. I struggle to believe in fate too. I believe everything happen to us are own responsibility, 100%, at all times. I believe we can get whatever we want whenever we want.

However, not too sure how it works in relation to kids, for instance. What if a kid is born with a lethal disease? They are way too young too attract that to themselves so in this case there might be something that alters his state of mind? It is a bit hard for me to believe that a tiny tiny person is so strong till the point they choose to die horribly over to live. Same goes for the parents. I am sure they did not want their kid to die. So how did that happen?

I completely agree with LOA and I believe it controls 90% of our lives, but in some point there must be 10% we don't control. Maybe that is fate?

Quite often children teach their parents instead of the other way around.
So I'm just wondering, do you know what a "soul contract" is? Because it has to do with that.
Before you are born, you (your soul) agree to do or achieve a certain thing in your upcoming life. Whether you succeed or not is still up to you in your human form, but you do have a goal you agreed to.
Most of the time that goal is something that will take a full lifetime to complete. But sometimes it is different. Certain things are best learned through sorrow. Those parents may have become spiritual them self because of the decision the soul of their child made. That is a life that is short and very profound.

[CarolineD]

I agree with this point

Originally Posted by MIND POWER

Law of attraction is a mechanism where by hopefully we consciously control and rearrange matter! fate for me is something outside of matter, this has to do with spirit which is matter's dual opposite! And quite simply every now and then fate bursts through into this world, i think your intuition knows what your fate is! if you can listen to it! i try to listen to my intuition, i even have small conversations with it! haha

I kind of got the urge to make this post, sometimes i make posts on here! and i go against my intuition (Knowingly), and i sometimes wonder what i have done..hahah.

[Ginger Maynor]

I say "yes" to the original posters question. Yes, as long as what you desire is for your greater good and aligned with your higher self.
You can desire many things that are not for your good or anyone else's good.
You can also think in your mind that you want something, then go about getting it while trashing everyone and everything around you. If you go that route, you may get what you want but you will bring bad karma to you in other ways.

[cdoliveira]

Originally Posted by William 辰

Quite often children teach their parents instead of the other way around.
So I'm just wondering, do you know what a "soul contract" is? Because it has to do with that.
Before you are born, you (your soul) agree to do or achieve a certain thing in your upcoming life. Whether you succeed or not is still up to you in your human form, but you do have a goal you agreed to.
Most of the time that goal is something that will take a full lifetime to complete. But sometimes it is different. Certain things are best learned through sorrow. Those parents may have become spiritual them self because of the decision the soul of their child made. That is a life that is short and very profound.

Very good and interesting explanation, thanks for that @William 辰