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Old 29-04-2018, 05:43 AM
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Old 08-05-2018, 10:28 PM
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Old 16-05-2018, 10:42 PM
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My own misconception about the similarities of Siberian Shamanism and Native American Spirituality came from the talks in which Joseph Campbell quoted Black Elk:
I saw myself on the central mountain of the world, the highest place, and I had a vision because I was seeing in the sacred manner of the world, The sacred mountain is Harney Peak in South Dakota. And then he says, But the central mountain in everywhere.

When Black Elk was nine, the story goes, he took ill for twelve days, lying in a coma, in an apparent shamanic initiatory crisis of the kind. During his coma, Black Elk experienced what he later called his “Great Vision,” an elaborate journey through the sky to the the Rainbow Teepee where the Thunder Beings dwell. The culmination of his vision, to which Campbell glowingly referred, was a journey to the center of the earth, and his discovery that all people are one.

That to my mind back then (the way it was presented) was instantly recognizable “Core Shamanism”.

The Ger, the World Tree & Spirit Flight
In Siberian and especially Mongolian shamanism the ger, a traditional dwelling constructed from a framework of wooden poles covered with animal skins and with a central smoke-hole in the roof, was a microcosmic symbol or representation of the universe. For this reason all movement inside the ger was conducted, if at all possible, in a deosil or sunways direction. This also reflected the traditional direction of movement used in shamanic rituals and dances. The centre of the ger, where a fire burnt in a hearth and was seldom extinguished, was symbolic of the actual centre of the world or universe. The column of smoke that drifted up from the fire and left the ger through the central smoke-hole in the roof was symbolic of the axis mundi – the World Mountain, World Pillar or World Tree. This links the underworld below with the heavens above and ends at the North and Pole Star around which all the other stars revolve in the night sky. The shamans believed in three worlds of existence connected together by the World Tree or Tree of Life.
…… Or (sometimes said to be connected by) the Rainbow Bridge and it is the Thunderbird (Force Field) which (in Shamanism) brings this Nondual Vision or Awakening that All Layers of the Creation are “One” (or “None”).

But now I am not so sure about any similarities or parallels - I really do not know what to think any more.
So many things that have been written by so called “Native Americans” turn out not to even be Native Americans and so many things written about Native Americans are later found to be untrue.
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Old 18-05-2018, 08:26 PM
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Another quote - I felt - sounded so true:

But are these Chief Seattle’s quotes genuine or “white man’s” projections/fabrications?
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