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Old 27-11-2018, 06:28 AM
inavalan inavalan is offline
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If you think you can't go through walls, then you can't. It is the same in out-of-body experiences.

This can be observed in certain circumstances in our physical life too.

On the other hand, you can observe in your regular dreams how you do certain things without questioning them, tings that yo wouldn't do when awake. There are different states, and it matter which part of our minds has the control.
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Old 28-11-2018, 11:02 PM
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NDErs describe themselves as being hyper aware, the opposite of a dream state where you are in many ways playing things out without full awareness/control. In that regard, I guess it wpuld be more like having a hyper lucid dream. But that's key, in a lucid dream you understand you are dreaming- hence the word lucid. During an NDE, people having an OBE will often do things that they seemingly couldn't do alive, such as going through walls, flying and "teleporting". If belief influenced that, then by virtue of their hyper lucidity and thinking themselves to be alive, such thing should not be possible. Either that, or doing such things should immediately shock them into understanding that they are no longer in the physical real. And there lies the conundrum which I've yet to understand.
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Old 13-12-2018, 09:37 PM
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NDErs describe themselves as being hyper aware, the opposite of a dream state where you are in many ways playing things out without full awareness/control. In that regard, I guess it wpuld be more like having a hyper lucid dream. But that's key, in a lucid dream you understand you are dreaming- hence the word lucid. During an NDE, people having an OBE will often do things that they seemingly couldn't do alive, such as going through walls, flying and "teleporting". If belief influenced that, then by virtue of their hyper lucidity and thinking themselves to be alive, such thing should not be possible. Either that, or doing such things should immediately shock them into understanding that they are no longer in the physical real. And there lies the conundrum which I've yet to understand.

Having had both an NDE (emerging symptom-free from a three-day "irreversible coma") and experiences in conscious sleep (watching dream formation from start to finish), the differences are not as pronounced as you suggest (IMHO).
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Old 20-12-2018, 12:42 PM
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I have Newton's "Destiny of Souls" 25 feet to my right as I type. It's next on the reading list.
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Old 20-12-2018, 01:57 PM
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Well, youtube to the rescue, Aunt Bud! Here's 4 hours of an audio reading of
''Journey of Souls''...Part 1 !!
I listen to part each night before I fall asleep...and wow, is it great...
His books are all 3 feet to my right!
Ah, the joys of having a laptop right on my night table...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YpU8ANIZMY


Inavalan: "If you think you can't go through walls, then you can't.
It is the same in out-of-body experiences.' LOL, and your signature could be mine, also!!!
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Old 20-12-2018, 02:18 PM
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Having had both an NDE (emerging symptom-free from a three-day "irreversible coma") and experiences in conscious sleep (watching dream formation from start to finish), the differences are not as pronounced as you suggest (IMHO).
Interesting, Still_Waters- can you explain what you mean in a bit more detail? I'm curious to know how you would compare the two.

Do you believe the death experience may be a bit like a dream, where you don't often have conscious control?
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