How did it all start? How was God created?

Are there any scientists that have agreed with your thesis of the attributes and purpose of the black hole?


Science has yet to quantify the spiritual realms. It is interesting to note here that they will, eventually, do so but it will be a surprise. Certain understandings of transdimensional movements are now known. This is in regards to our friends who travel great distances at far beyond the speed of light. They are able to do this, not because of worm holes, but because they know how to jump out of our familiar third dimension and into the fourth. This is what they are doing when they suddenly appear or disappear in our skies. The fourth dimension is on the cusp, it is the lowest of the spiritual realms. There is matter in this plane. We already know it as the ethereal. Here, the speed of light no longer limits travel. It is that simple. This information has been shared with a group of our scientists already but it's complete meaning has yet to emerge. When more about this is known it will be realized that this is the medium of existence from which it all came. Herein was the immediate, not the primal because the great mind of God is much, much higher, but the immediate, cause of the the Big Bang.

Downstream from these realizations will be created a new, non Newtonian mathematics which will serve as the language of what will become the melding of philosophy and science.

Have any scientists arrived at this realization? Probably, privately. It is good that science is cautious. We don't need to rush into new areas.

[PeaceSeeker]

Originally Posted by bartholomew

Are there any scientists that have agreed with your thesis of the attributes and purpose of the black hole?

Science has yet to quantify the spiritual realms. Have any scientists arrived at this realization? Probably, privately. It is good that science is cautious. We don't need to rush into new areas.

Interesting. Someone from the India Daily interpreted my spiritual experience in the following manner. I do not necessarily agree with the article.

Physics meets paranormal - Finding nearest openings to seven parallel
Universes - Near death experiences

India Daily Technology Team

May 28, 2005

The ultimate bending space and time results in finding the opening to the
nearest parallel space and time. According to advanced researchers in
Physics, there are seven parallel Universes. These Universes are so
different in their perception that with conventional physics we can never
find where they are and how they are. However, the concept of accelerating
to speed much higher than light and take us to these parallels Universes
through an opening in our vicinity. You do not have to travel a thousand
light years into a black hole to go there; that is just one of the ways to
approach the parallel Universes. But our mind and spirit has the psychic
power that can make us travel through the nearest opening into the parallel
Universes. Those who have experienced near death experiences move into these
parallel Universes through the tunnel with a while light at the end of the
tunnel. All of those who had near death experience report similar
happenings. How can this be explained with physics?

Our spirit or soul is a source of electromagnetic energy that can
infinitively amplify if needed. Inner satisfaction of a soul results in
elevation of this energy. It is also true that we move into these parallel
Universes using intense electromagnetic flux with the help of dark energy.
We just do not know how to do that. The problem is that if we try to do it
using physical means we encounter a situation that is infinitely impossible
to achieve. But accelerating through a black hole or applying dark energy in
a suitable manner in the immediate vicinity theoretically can take us to the
parallel Universe. But a much better way is to traverse to the parallel
Universe through our inbuilt psychic power. When our spirit is allowed
freedom through death or through transcendental meditation, the unleashed
electromagnetic flux crates the miracle - it finds an immediate opening to
the parallel Universe in the close vicinity. Religious prophets in various
religions as well as those who have experienced near death experience the
parallel Universes. Most of them report part of oneness and tranquility.
They also report of completeness of knowledge.

Will we eventually find the electromagnetic fields and the change of that
runs this Universe? The other parallel Universes may not work the same way.
That is the reason what is energy or spirit in this Universe is part of
tranquility and eternity in another Universe. This has now been verified by a
Transcendologist from the USA. When he had a near-death
experience in 1956 at age fifteen his soul traveled into a higher-level
parallel universe. What happens to us after death has now been made clear.
He twice repeated this experiment in 2001 when he placed his body in
stasis and used his psychic power via transcendental meditation to again
access this parallel universe where spiritual life thrives. Some researchers
believe that parallel universes exist in our immediate vicinity.

Originally Posted by PeaceSeeker

If the idea of a hereafter is where we think that we will finally inherit our just reward on the basis of the "purity" for having worshipped and emulated the appropriate "God", it is indeed an ancient one and needs to be corrected. Thousands of years of belief in such an idea indeed does not make it true. There is "not" only one life, that life is "not" only God's life, and that life is "not" only our life NOW. How can we live and move and have our being within God right now and forevermore? It make a difference to the survival of your soul how you live your life today.

From our finite standpoint truths are absolute but this is not true. Rather, it is true yet it is not. Christianity is one of the three great Abrahamic religions. Studying it we we see that it gives us a present and a future but it has little to say about our past. This is because it is not a philosophical approach to eternity but a dogmatic one. The many thinkers who are also Christians work quietly behind the scenes. These are men and women who, by their own efforts, have come to certain realizations. They are content in this. It is enough.

Humanity on this planet is like an ever blossoming flower with billions of petals. On their own plane human souls are being created at all times. Once begun the process has never stopped. We thus see, on Earth, at any time, a great mixture of young and old souls with everything in between. But the mix is always heavily in favor of the young. This is due to the variations in life spans of incarnated humans and also because of time between incarnations. It is also, and most notably, due to the ever increasing world population. Since the beginning of the time of human beings on this planet there have always been far fewer advanced souls in carnation and many, many more junior. This remains true today.

Beginner souls tend to be very emotional, even erratic. This is because they have strong connections to the astral plane. They largely have not yet learned to function in a mature way on the mental plane. They are as yet less receptive to rational thought, more comfortable simply reacting. And they are very far from any recognition of their own spirituality, their souls. Yet these are worthy human beings endowed with all the attributes of their fathers. Each of them will someday become a master soul and guide to many others. In this sense, in the eye of God, we are all equals.

Consider the history of religions on Earth. Again look at the three which serve us in this post. The eldest, Judaism has changed much since it's inception but it remains vital and alive. Christianity has seen many more changes during it's shorter lifetime. This difference is because of the far greater number of Christians in the world, not because of any supposed primacy of Judaism. The third, Islam, has seen attempts to change in it's shorter history. It will see others. It is more resistant. This is not because it's tenants are less imperfect than the others but because the focus of that religion is in a part of the world where changes are less welcome. Each of the three religions of Abraham will grow and become more diverse as time goes on. This is an inalienable part of the dynamic of humanity on this planet.

It is also true that at any time of the world there is a strong following for the most conservative, even severe, form of each of these. In other words. the fundamentalists of each always have a strong following. This is not a bad or untimely thing. I tells us of the requirements of the human mind and how it changes as the soul begins, matures and ages approaching completion.

Again humanity is a mix of young and old and.... the spiritual progress of man does not favor any general spiritually advanced group. If the Earth were not so dynamic a planet this might not be true. If our numbers were very slow to increase and if, over time, the majority enjoyed a level of spiritual maturity which allowed them to successfully move beyond the need for the basics of spiritual practice as provided us by religions, in this example the three Abrahamic groupings, then this would not be true.

At any time on Earth there is a great need for exactly what religions offer. This is why they endure. Shall we deprive people of exactly what they need? Would this be wise? What would become of the billions of poor folk who are not yet positioned for advancement? Far better it seems to provide a religious setting for each man and woman, one in which their abilities are best served. As children are bid "obey" so are the spiritual youngsters among us.

No matter the time of the Earth the master souls who guide have always provided for all the groupings of humanity. Authoritative religions for the young, limited access repositories for the old and everything in between.

The Earth is a classroom. It serves students. It is presently functioning in precisely the way it is meant to. Among the great dynamics in play we must not forget karma but as we consider this let us also be aware of group karma. In addition to the karma of the individual there is the karma of nations, races, religions etc... indeed every planet which is home to sentient beings is also so bounded. Consider this. We seem to be individuals. We have minds and free will. Our true environment however is existence in groups. We innately group together for this reason. On this Earth we sort ourselves into groups as noted above and very often function as a whole or parts of the whole. The important thing to consider here is that we share many aspects of our progress, jointly, with our fellows. In the beginning and for many long lifetimes, we exist together working very close with others. It is only towards the final days that we change. This is the reason for philosophers to city "the loneliness of the soul" as they do when speaking of existence. They are speaking about themselves. They have evolved to the point where they are much more introspective. They have looked inwards. They write about what they find.

So here we all are. On this forum is a wide mix of types. Read what people have to say and discover their positioning in spiritual growth. Realize then that it is good. Each man has his truth based on his present understanding. Because of the fluidity of truth each of us is correct. We sometimes err greatly when we attempt to bring others to our truth. This is not always wise.

At this moment there are at least one billion newly created human souls on our planet. These good folk are mostly born into authoritarian societies because that is the setting in which they will do best. They need lots of discipline. It is essential for the well being of these that our religions continue to offer the safety of a purely dogmatic approach blended with the various cultures.

Originally Posted by PeaceSeeker

Interesting. Someone from the India Daily interpreted my spiritual experience in the following manner. I do not necessarily agree with the article.

Physics meets paranormal - Finding nearest openings to seven parallel
Universes - Near death experiences

India Daily Technology Team

May 28, 2005

The ultimate bending space and time results in finding the opening to the
nearest parallel space and time. According to advanced researchers in
Physics, there are seven parallel Universes. These Universes are so
different in their perception that with conventional physics we can never
find where they are and how they are. However, the concept of accelerating
to speed much higher than light and take us to these parallels Universes
through an opening in our vicinity. You do not have to travel a thousand
light years into a black hole to go there; that is just one of the ways to
approach the parallel Universes. But our mind and spirit has the psychic
power that can make us travel through the nearest opening into the parallel
Universes. Those who have experienced near death experiences move into these
parallel Universes through the tunnel with a while light at the end of the
tunnel. All of those who had near death experience report similar
happenings. How can this be explained with physics?

Our spirit or soul is a source of electromagnetic energy that can
infinitively amplify if needed. Inner satisfaction of a soul results in
elevation of this energy. It is also true that we move into these parallel
Universes using intense electromagnetic flux with the help of dark energy.
We just do not know how to do that. The problem is that if we try to do it
using physical means we encounter a situation that is infinitely impossible
to achieve. But accelerating through a black hole or applying dark energy in
a suitable manner in the immediate vicinity theoretically can take us to the
parallel Universe. But a much better way is to traverse to the parallel
Universe through our inbuilt psychic power. When our spirit is allowed
freedom through death or through transcendental meditation, the unleashed
electromagnetic flux crates the miracle - it finds an immediate opening to
the parallel Universe in the close vicinity. Religious prophets in various
religions as well as those who have experienced near death experience the
parallel Universes. Most of them report part of oneness and tranquility.
They also report of completeness of knowledge.

Will we eventually find the electromagnetic fields and the change of that
runs this Universe? The other parallel Universes may not work the same way.
That is the reason what is energy or spirit in this Universe is part of
tranquility and eternity in another Universe. This has now been verified by a
Transcendologist from the USA. When he had a near-death
experience in 1956 at age fifteen his soul traveled into a higher-level
parallel universe. What happens to us after death has now been made clear.
He twice repeated this experiment in 2001 when he placed his body in
stasis and used his psychic power via transcendental meditation to again
access this parallel universe where spiritual life thrives. Some researchers
believe that parallel universes exist in our immediate vicinity.

It is appropriate to note here that science will discover that the human brain, in addition to being an electro/chemical device which controls the various functions of the body and lower mind as modified through the variables of setting and genetics, is also our natural connection to the spiritual realms from which we came and with witch we must always be joined. The brain serves a translative purpose. We, unlike animals, no matter how intelligent they may be, are easily capable of accessing an area of mind that we call intuitive. This is not a natural result of the physical brain. It is a higher area of mind which exists on the plane of souls. When we use this higher mind we are shifting back for a time to the natural state of how a soul thinks. We simply don't realize it but this is the truth. It is this part of the brain which is deeply hidden within the pineal that is responsible for what we call psychic phenomena. It is to this "gateway" that our visionary chakras in our foreheads are connected. Here are the basics which explain our apparent native duality. Again.... animals do not have this function. They are fully aware of the spirit worlds but in a different way. The difference being the area of "mind" that is used.

It is also notable to mention here that "energy" is not simple or inalterable. Since it results from external forces it is subject to conditioning in it's environment. We then see high energy and low. We find that an originating force on a very high plane will create resultant types of energies on other planes depending upon where it is directed. Astral energy, ethereal energy, physical (Newtonian) energy, mental energy and so on. And yes... divine energy along with Atmic and Buddhic and so on. Energy is the great variable which seems, nonetheless, to be strangely constant. A single originating force (mind) will result in many energetic variations depending upon the sphere in which we wish to work. This is a basic of creative science.

[PeaceSeeker]

Originally Posted by bartholomew

So here we all are. On this forum is a wide mix of types. Read what people have to say and discover their positioning in spiritual growth. Realize then that it is good. Each man has his truth based on his present understanding. Because of the fluidity of truth each of us is correct. We sometimes err greatly when we attempt to bring others to our truth. This is not always wise.

At this moment there are at least one billion newly created human souls on our planet. These good folk are mostly born into authoritarian societies because that is the setting in which they will do best. They need lots of discipline. It is essential for the well being of these that our religions continue to offer the safety of a purely dogmatic approach blended with the various cultures.

It is of no importance during our physical life whether God exists or not if one so chooses. Whether or not one believes in a spirit or God really makes no difference to God. Righteous living will determine the continuance and destiny of our spirit/soul.
One’s life can be enhanced by receiving solace and being comforted during life’s trials and tribulations by having our spirit inspired and blessed by the Spirit of God. This is normally man’s only connection with God except when God’s Spirit interacts with a person’s spirit directly; God’s messenger.
All religions have the same goal. Our intelligence compared to God is like that of a two year old child. God will make allowances for our ignorance.

[Dan_SF]

Only time has an beginning and an end.

Eternity was always there, and is always there, and will be there when time ends.

And time ends whenever we stop thinking about it.

It is not important how God was created, but how can we recognize, that we are living in paradise, NOW.

All the human concepts of righteous or wrongneous living shall fall aside. They are keeping you in time.

Do not missunderstand what i wrote, as a free ticket to wrongneous living, that's not what i meant to say.
What hurts the other will hurt you, this is still so.

What i meant is, there is a Judgemental trap of what is right and what is wrong.
So when you judge yourself as right, and other as wrong, then you are wrong.

A change in thinking is needed, a change which will bring the recognition of the pure Holiness of the Father.

[PeaceSeeker]

Originally Posted by Dan_SF

Only time has an beginning and an end.

Eternity was always there, and is always there, and will be there when time ends.

And time ends whenever we stop thinking about it.

.

I agree, "God is Love, and therefore so am I. I am Following the Spirit of Love now."

[FallingLeaves]

Originally Posted by PeaceSeeker

In this 21st Century, the Age of Technology, we are still plagued by religious beliefs that are a contributing cause toward terrorism, killings and wars between nations. Belief in a deity that caused catastrophes, punished people and created the universe out of nothingness as if by magic was brought about by hysteria and superstitions. This thought process needs to be reassessed and brought up to date. God is love and would never harm mankind.

ah the age old problem. Let me ask you, is this so very important that you make yourself a cause to force it on those who have no stomach for it?

[PeaceSeeker]

Originally Posted by FallingLeaves

ah the age old problem. Let me ask you, is this so very important that you make yourself a cause to force it on those who have no stomach for it?

The cause...is to educate, or point out the stupidity of religious beliefs that are a contributing cause toward terrorism, killings and wars between nations.

It may also help those who have no stomach for it...by being aware and wary of religious radicals.

[Dargor]

According to Christianity, God is eternal and has no beginning nor end. The more I think about it, the more confusing it becomes.... God must have been lonely for a VERY long time then, long before he created the angels and Heaven.