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Old 04-12-2020, 03:32 PM
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The Guru in form is what leads to the perfect Guru within - which then becomes the perfect Guru outside.
I must admit I have never really gotten the guru within thing...except when going super
far in meditation, ha, exactly 40 years ago- places I had never been - I felt safe cuz I could feel his protection.
I mean I thought I wasn't going to come back to my body and I was going to be found sitting in a half lotus!
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Old 04-12-2020, 03:45 PM
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I must admit I have never really gotten the guru within thing...except when going super
far in meditation, ha, exactly 40 years ago- places I had never been - I felt safe cuz I could feel his protection.
I mean I thought I wasn't going to come back to my body and I was going to be found sitting in a half lotus!

Here's my take on the guru within. It's Self revealing itself to the ego-self. The guru in the flesh can point one to Self but can never reveal Self to another. Self is self-revealing and it has to be directly revealed. It can't be indirectly revealed by the guru in the flesh. That's only going to be intellectual and it needs to be experiential.
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Old 04-12-2020, 04:39 PM
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Here's my take on the guru within. It's Self revealing itself to the ego-self. The guru in the flesh can point one to Self but can never reveal Self to another. Self is self-revealing and it has to be directly revealed. It can't be indirectly revealed by the guru in the flesh. That's only going to be intellectual and it needs to be experiential.

In Christianity grace is the means for direct revelation with similar effect....
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Old 04-12-2020, 05:11 PM
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I think two or more threads should exist: One for people who understand the thread for what it is and have wonderful conversations with insight and wisdom and love and appreciation shared.

You need a cult, IMO. Just have all people their noses look in the same direction. A perfect place, with perfect devotees, all perfectly tamed by 'the Master'!

Incidentally, how will you even make it possible? People could trick you or think they talk about the same things when in fact their experience was very different.

IMO your points reflect one of the issues I see in guru worship and such places.

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I really hope that those who appreciate the Topic here will join in, but, of course, no one is banned. And the few here who love this topic as I do, will come back to it rejoicing.

In a way this Topic various responses represent some of the conflict, aggression and confusion in the World.

Okay, come at me - if you really want to - otherwise come those who love and appreciate the Topic.

Good to know we have you to watch over us and decide that we may join, and appreciate the topic, like you, and rejoice it, like you, and love it, like you.

*Deleted sarcasm* For how can they have a different opinion about guru's from your own? Why isn't everyone just like you? If only they were..

Agreeing with Maya El here.
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Old 04-12-2020, 06:07 PM
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Let's just keep it on topic. 'The Difference a Guru makes'...
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Like I think I said already - no harm taking on a Guide when you land in a new city or country.

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Many traditions describe that it is nearly impossible to realize the "truth" without
the guidance, help and support of a true guru. I thought it might be helpful to describe
how/what is the meaningful difference a guru makes to the realization process.
Lifetimes of karma can be cleared quickly.
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Through delusion you are perceiving yourself as a bundle of flesh and bones, which at best is a nest of troubles.
Meditate unceasingly, that you may quickly behold yourself as the Infinite Essence, free from every form of misery. ~Paramahansa's Guru's Guru
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Old 04-12-2020, 06:19 PM
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Some people like fruit, some like veggies. I do not make a judgment. It is not for me to judge.
I would like to discuss a topic about the topic with people who know about the topic. Thats all here.
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