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28-01-2012, 02:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Serrao
Hi Xan,
Very interesting...
Do those immortalists also have superhuman abilities like flying and teleporting?
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I suppose if they want to, Serrao. Once we've become the master of the body-mind anything is possible, I guess. There are stories like these in Tibetan Buddhism.
Xan
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Go within, beloveds. Go deep within to the Heart of your Being.
The Truth is found there and nowhere else.-Sananda
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28-01-2012, 02:25 AM
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Originally Posted by silent whisper
Why would it be a one vibrational level? The vibration flowing through all life in connectedness is always here and now...so is it just about wealth and knowledge? The only thing that may come into it is our physical vessel and the aging process.
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I agree. Although most of the race is in a narrow vibrational range, as we awaken into our multidimensional nature - here in the midst of material appearances - the whole game gradually changes.
There are other reasons for being here besides learning... healing the world and serving, for one.
Xan
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Go within, beloveds. Go deep within to the Heart of your Being.
The Truth is found there and nowhere else.-Sananda
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28-01-2012, 06:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Xan
I suppose if they want to, Serrao. Once we've become the master of the body-mind anything is possible, I guess. There are stories like these in Tibetan Buddhism.
Xan
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Do you know some links with stories about these things?
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28-01-2012, 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Humm
What about reincarnation? The reincarnation traditions hold that it can take thousands of lifetimes to 'learn' everything. I'm not so sure the one-lifetime-to-a-person POV should be offered so matter-of-factly.
And as to whether or not a person would want to - a highly individual decision as well.
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Humm--Did I dispute reincarnation? I didn't mean to. I just meant that, as one life of many that is still in physical, you can't entirely join the rest of your soul/soul group/oversoul---whatever you call it.
Yes, whether you want to live in a physical body forever is a person decision. I just haven't heard a cogent argument for wanting to!
IsleWalker - Lora
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28-01-2012, 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by IsleWalker
Humm--Did I dispute reincarnation? I didn't mean to. I just meant that, as one life of many that is still in physical, you can't entirely join the rest of your soul/soul group/oversoul---whatever you call it.
Yes, whether you want to live in a physical body forever is a person decision. I just haven't heard a cogent argument for wanting to!
IsleWalker - Lora
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Ah, I understand.
IMO, spirit transcends all space and time, which makes how long one lives in that respect irrelevant.
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28-01-2012, 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Humm
Ah, I understand.
IMO, spirit transcends all space and time, which makes how long one lives in that respect irrelevant.
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Has to be relevant to our souls for some reason--else we wouldn't have done it. My personal theory, again--that these lives provide an accelerated way to perfect our energy where "holes" or irregularities may exist. As I said in another thread, physical lives are like Spiritual/energetic Stress Tests--it makes the "holes" show up. Add a life stacked to bring out whatever irregularities there are, it is a perfect vehicle for growth.
If you're saying that your soul is all it needs already, aren't you precluding growth?
IsleWalker - Lora
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28-01-2012, 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by IsleWalker
Has to be relevant to our souls for some reason--else we wouldn't have done it. My personal theory, again--that these lives provide an accelerated way to perfect our energy where "holes" or irregularities may exist. As I said in another thread, physical lives are like Spiritual/energetic Stress Tests--it makes the "holes" show up. Add a life stacked to bring out whatever irregularities there are, it is a perfect vehicle for growth.
If you're saying that your soul is all it needs already, aren't you precluding growth?
IsleWalker - Lora
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If you are saying the universe is some kind of soul school, this has great implications.
Who set up the school? Who made the rules? If your answer is God, then I think it is safe to assume He set it up to serve His purpose - the goals are inevitable, the rules are absolute.
We cannot do anything but eventually realize our highest 'expression' (growth) as souls, and there is no way we can do anything that is not intended.
I repeat what I said above - physical immortality, impossible, so long LONG life, irrelevant.
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28-01-2012, 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Humm
If you are saying the universe is some kind of soul school, this has great implications.
Who set up the school? Who made the rules? If your answer is God, then I think it is safe to assume He set it up to serve His purpose - the goals are inevitable, the rules are absolute.
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I believe WE set it up. As part of Source, we create as well. IMO
Lora
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28-01-2012, 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Humm
You mean physically travelling to spiritual dimensions/planes? No, because they are not physical planes.
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just saying, a group of us asked the Grand Elder, or Chief, of the Guatemalan Maya "is it possible to travel to different dimensions while awake?" and he said
"Yes, it depends on your birthday"
so who knows how the process shakes down lol.
take it for what you wish
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28-01-2012, 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Symbiotic Self
just saying, a group of us asked the Grand Elder, or Chief, of the Guatemalan Maya "is it possible to travel to different dimensions while awake?" and he said
"Yes, it depends on your birthday"
so who knows how the process shakes down lol.
take it for what you wish
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At one time I was able to perceive astrally while awake.
I don't recommend it.
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