baptist

[shoni7510]

Originally Posted by Robinski78

Why should anyone concern themselves about baptism, when there's a 50/50 chance that a heaven might - or might not - exist...

Personally, I think it's the latter... Naturally: I stand to be corrected...

Robbie....

Personally I know that heaven exists I have visited there several times and God and Jesus exist too

[Shivani Devi]

There's a part of me that's sitting here going..."gawd...oh gee..."

For me, heaven and hell exist on this earthly plane and within every one of us.

Hell = God unconscious
Heaven = God conscious

Baptism is the path that takes us from lower frequencies of spirit to the higher realms.

"What you are seeing now, is what my heart has longed for and what you have prayed to see. This fire is now upon the earth. From this moment onwards, you will be hearing reports from various places around the world.

This fire will come even without the laying on of hands. It will be seen in great numbers, as people who are gathered in prayer turn their hearts to me. Even where there is only two, it will be seen. Even though they have not prayed for it, it will come.

You have received the Baptism of the Holy Spirit, it is now time for the Baptism of Fire. Be ready... And be prepared."

Luke 12:49 -52

Baptism of Fire eh? eh???

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kundalini

Think of water baptism as purifying the chakras first.

All I know is that Christians would have burned me at the stake about 400 years ago. lol

[Within Silence]

So much of this is symbology, fire is truth, hence God/Truth is a consuming fire. Baptism by fire/truth is to have ones thoughts/illusions/conceptual reality dis-pelled so to speak by "truth" to make the unconscious conscious, to see with real-eyes so to speak. Very hard stuff to explain. 10. Jesus said, "I have cast fire upon the world, and look, I'm guarding it until it blazes." fire is truth, truth is a consuming fire destroying all that is false, separating the wheat from the chaff so to speak, truth from fiction, Maya from actuality. I consciousness, the way/truth/life am guarding it until the illusory world based on assumptions, conceptual thought is overtaken by the fire/truth and built and based upon the solid rock/foundation of truth, not beliefs/unconsciousness.

To be purified/re-fined/re-stored/re-cog-nize (notice the prefix "re" which means one once was already this hence now one is re-turned again to what its always been) made whole is to see that one was never separated in the first place, not to believe it but to see it clearly to under-stand (stand-under) IT i.e. humility/dropping of pseudo identity etc.

The kingdom of heave is not some physical place you're going to nor is hell, they are words pointing to states of consciousness, degrees of wakefulness/awareness. In other words, people in this world say things like; "that person who committed those crimes is going to hell" NO that is incorrect, the person who committed those crimes is already IN hell, thus the revealing of this through their crimes, if they were not already in a hellish psychological state/unconscious they could not have done those crimes in the first place.

[Robinski78]

Originally Posted by shoni7510

Personally I know that heaven exists I have visited there several times and God and Jesus exist too

That doesn't surprise me Shoni... All our paths are different - as is the overall content of them...

We all see and understand the contents of our particular spectrum of life, according to the means and methods utilized in their development...

I'm pleased to know that your finding are real: and very special to you...

Blessings...

Robbie...