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11-02-2015, 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by ajay00
The truth over here is not something that is realized by thought. It is by cessation of thought in meditation, that one arrives at the truth. Since it is non-conceptual, it is not bound to differ from person to person.
Consciousness minus conceptualisation is the eternal Brahman the absolute; consciousness plus conceptualisation is thought. -- Yoga Vasistha
And this is the reason why enlightened masters statements on the ultimate reality is identical to each others.
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Very interesting view. Thank you .
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11-02-2015, 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Serrao
Thank you .
Do you also know what scripture this information comes from?
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It draws from several ancient writings - Upanishads, bhagavad gItA, purANas - to mention just a few.
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11-02-2015, 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by kris
It draws from several ancient writings - Upanishads, bhagavad gItA, purANas - to mention just a few.
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Thank you .
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12-02-2015, 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Serrao
Prayer, mantra, meditation and good living are also known and proven aspects/factors to achieve enlightenment and remain enlightened. Do you think raisng the vibration and enlightenment are related?
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Yes. If the ultimate vibration/ consciousness is God, then the journey to that place is one of raising consciousness, which I would suggest is also the journey to enlightenment...but its all just words.
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12-02-2015, 03:53 PM
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Serrao: Do you think raising the vibration and
enlightenment are related?
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I thought you would like this...I just read it in an ACIM related book...
"Am I becoming more loving? More peaceful? More forgiving?...
Do I understand the folly of judgment?"
That is how to tell if a path is working for someone.
I liked that.
ACIM= A Course In Miracles
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Prepare yourself for the coming astral journey of death by daily riding in the balloon of God-perception.
Through delusion you are perceiving yourself as a bundle of flesh and bones, which at best is a nest of troubles.
Meditate unceasingly, that you may quickly behold yourself as the Infinite Essence, free from every form of misery. ~Paramahansa's Guru's Guru.
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12-02-2015, 11:33 PM
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Originally Posted by peteyzen
Yes. If the ultimate vibration/ consciousness is God, then the journey to that place is one of raising consciousness, which I would suggest is also the journey to enlightenment...but its all just words.
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I too beliefe that when one exceeds a certain degree of vibrational rate, that's where enlightenment starts. And because there is eternal time and existence, there is the eternal possibility of exceeding this certain degree of vibration more and more. And thus become more and more advanced while abiding in enlightenment.
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12-02-2015, 11:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Miss Hepburn
I thought you would like this...I just read it in an ACIM related book...
"Am I becoming more loving? More peaceful? More forgiving?...
Do I understand the folly of judgment?"
That is how to tell if a path is working for someone.
I liked that.
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Thank you
I believe that enlightenment is broadly threefold.
1) Ones ethical life. In Hinduism it is adviced to act mentally, verbally en physically in a proper way. The energy related to this kind of action is called "sattvic". This looks like what you read in ACIM.
2) The bodily vibration. This has to do with the lightbody and causes advancements in ones being. This is called "siddhis".
3) Your day-to-day life should be in balance too. I mean things like a social life, working, eating, sleeping and relaxation.
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ACIM= A Course In Miracles
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I knew that .
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13-02-2015, 12:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Serrao
I knew that .
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I can't wait till I don't have to write what ACIM is over and over.
I've had to tell my sister twice, geeze. She forgets.
Just too much typing.
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Prepare yourself for the coming astral journey of death by daily riding in the balloon of God-perception.
Through delusion you are perceiving yourself as a bundle of flesh and bones, which at best is a nest of troubles.
Meditate unceasingly, that you may quickly behold yourself as the Infinite Essence, free from every form of misery. ~Paramahansa's Guru's Guru.
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13-02-2015, 01:14 AM
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Like so many other words, maya has a variety of understandings, depending on school within Hinduism, and from non-Hindu paradigms resulting from various translations. So the common understanding is illusion, but that really isn't a complete view.
In my sampradaya, it's defined as the substance emanated from Siva that allows form to manifest, or via which form manifests.
Sp yes, there would exist non-maya, the absolute reality, or God, from which it was emanated.
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13-02-2015, 01:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Vinayaka
So yes, there would exist non-maya, the absolute reality, or
God, from which it was emanated.
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Haha, makes perfect sense!!
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Prepare yourself for the coming astral journey of death by daily riding in the balloon of God-perception.
Through delusion you are perceiving yourself as a bundle of flesh and bones, which at best is a nest of troubles.
Meditate unceasingly, that you may quickly behold yourself as the Infinite Essence, free from every form of misery. ~Paramahansa's Guru's Guru.
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